Need an answer from a Vet......

[TKO]

Aiight, I know obviously that Primo does Not aromatise, and no anti-e's are needed since it doesn't cause gyno or ANY estrogen related side effects, but my concern is after a 12 week cycle of Primo 400mg/week, won't my Test levels drop or crash post cycle, which can cause estrogen to be the dominant hormone, and thus gyno is STILL a concern even with Primo ?? Does that require that I should still use anti-e's for my Primo cutting cycle ?? What do you guys think ???

[pudgy]

go to the anabolic profiles forum, read the primobolin depot profile, itll answer your question, teekathy has been busting his ass over thier, good info.

[TKO]

Originally posted by pudgy
go to the anabolic profiles forum, read the primobolin depot profile, itll answer your question, teekathy has been busting his ass over thier, good info.

Already read all that, that aint what I need....I know everythin written in there.....My point is just that most people say you dont't need anti-e's with Primo, but I thought about it logically, and that's whay I need the question answered that I asked in the above post.....And btw, the anabolic profile on Primo says no anti-e's are needed with Primo, but still, I wanted a vet to give me an opinion on the above question.....

[TKO]

Originally posted by teekahty
They are not needed , primo does not effect endogenous test levels drastically until you get into higher dosages than your talking about, but if your cutting anyway and have some concerns just take some Nolva , maybe 10 or 20 mg per week . I always take Nolva when cutting it is cheap and effective.

You're real reliable man....you never take too long to reply to anyone......Good lookin out man.....And yeah, I guess I might take Nolva at like 20mg/ week, but if it's really not necessary, then I may not....

[Billy_Bathgate]

Yes I agree with tee. If however, that dosage just somehow was enough, you are thinking on the right track.

It is unlikely you would have to worry about that ever with 400mg/wk.

[EQLgearstud]

question for you chemical level guys

this stuff is really starting to interest me, i think i've found what i wanna do when i get older through this board. I wanna be a endocrinologist(spelling?). What books or web sites have you looked at to gain all this info. Thanx~

what could be better than having that job, get to play with gear and make tons o' money

[TKO]

Originally posted by Billy_Bathgate
Yes I agree with tee. If however, that dosage just somehow was enough, you are thinking on the right track.

It is unlikely you would have to worry about that ever with 400mg/wk.

Thanx for the advice man.....I guess I wont be needin anti-e's then for the Primo cycle....I wanna do a Primo only cycle cuz I only wanna harden up for and throughout the summer......dont want any extra size.....

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by TKO
dont want any extra size.....

All our worst nightmare huh? LOL

[TKO]

Originally posted by prolangtum
All our worst nightmare huh? LOL

LMAO.......Naw man, I meant for the summertime....I don't like being too big for the summer time.....I like being at like 75% of my size in the winter, but harder and more ripped.......I prefer a smaller frame through the summertime......

[rado]

Originally posted by TKO
You're real reliable man....you never take too long to reply to anyone......Good lookin out man.....And yeah, I guess I might take Nolva at like 20mg/ week, but if it's really not necessary, then I may not....

yea he's a good kid.

[Tricky]

Yeah the profiles are so good. Who loaded those, its got some really good info. Thanks to whomever.

[Mike P.T.]

Re: Need an answer from a Vet......

Originally posted by TKO
Aiight, I know obviously that Primo does Not aromatise, and no anti-e's are needed since it doesn't cause gyno or ANY estrogen related side effects, but my concern is after a 12 week cycle of Primo 400mg/week, won't my Test levels drop or crash post cycle, which can cause estrogen to be the dominant hormone, and thus gyno is STILL a concern even with Primo ?? Does that require that I should still use anti-e's for my Primo cutting cycle ?? What do you guys think ???

That's why you don't NEED it during a cycle but post cycle depending on how much you were shutdown clomid or nolvadex would be good choices to use. Some may not even need either but I would much rather be on the safe and sure side. Like teek said though if you are cutting you could use it to help prevent estrogens negative side effects associated with increased water retension and fat retension caused naturally from our bodies from the aromatized estrogen that naturally occurs.

[Billy_Bathgate]

Re: question for you chemical level guys

Originally posted by EQLgearstud
this stuff is really starting to interest me, i think i've found what i wanna do when i get older through this board. I wanna be a endocrinologist(spelling?). What books or web sites have you looked at to gain all this info. Thanx~

what could be better than having that job, get to play with gear and make tons o' money

Well, you first need a good background in biochem. So to get that understanding you gotta start at the bottom and work up. So this is where Id start if you seriously want to learn a ton on the body. This is also the path I took...

Start off witha good book on general biology and general chemistry.

Then goto a good anatomy/phisology and some organic chemistry.

Then get a good book on biochemistry and maybe some microbioogy, genetic, or immunology to add with that and then some cell biology wouldnt hurt.


Sounds like a shit load doesnt it? After that, Id say you would be pretty prepared to takle some good endocrinology books. Youll have the background to under stand what they are really talking about...as you can get lost in some of the terminology and processes.



All the books I have gotten were from Barnes and Nobles. IF your interested in some specific books, I can look them em for you. I save all my books.




Obviously, if your in school and can take the classes, its much easier than trying to tackle it on your own. You need a lot of patience thogh.


how old are you and what grade are you?

[Josh]

hey billy hes 18 and hes senior - hes not on so i answered for him

[GBAGH]

If you can afford the primobolan you can afford to grab some nolvadex and some clomid. Use accordingly.