Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

[gearhead101]

Stats:
5'10"
215 lb
15% bf
31 years old

Hey guys, I have done 3 cycles in the past but my last cycle has been run about 6 years ago! Needless to say, I am ready to get back into the swing of things. I am trying to be fairly conservative/healthy and get some good quality muscular gains (no hopes of competing in the near future - ha!).

I am going for good quality mass gains without much concern for water retention or bodyfat (I don't need to be super cut). I would like to put on about 15lbs with this cycle. I am loking to just keep it simple. Her are my thoughts:

Weeks 1-4 30mgs D-bol ed
Weeks 1-12 300 mgs Deca/wk
Weeks 1-12 500 mgs Test E/wk
Appropriate PCT (HCG/Nol)

or

Weeks 1-4 30mgs D-bol ed
Weeks 1-12 300 mgs EQ/wk (not sure if EQ should be taken in a smaller proportion to Test or if it is ideal to take in a 1:1 ratio)
Weeks 1-12 500 mgs Test E/wk
Appropriate PCT (HCG/Nol)

Thank you guys for any help you can provide. Good to be back on the board by the way!

[FUZO]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

bump the dbol to 50mg get the best out of it since your starting fresh. As for the test thats fine 500mg a week but the eq should be bumped up to 600mg a week and the deca 400mg a week get all what you want our of this cycle and use deca at 400 or eq at 600. 2 shots a week. m-f

[gearhead101]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

Great, thanks FUZO. That sounds like a truck load of D-bol for being off for 6 years, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the feedback on the Deca and EQ! Wish me luck!

[FUZO]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

WELL IF YOUR NOT HAPPY WITH IT THEN TAKE 30-40 MGS THEN SEE HOW IT IS.50MG IS USUALY THE NORM BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO TAKE THAT MUCH.

[Blackfoot]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

I like the second cycle for quality mass without water retention. Best of luck

[daved150]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

I like the second cycle for quality mass without water retention. Best of luck

i agree but i'd bump eq to 600mg's. (i dont really respond to less than 800mg's....took me 2-3 times using eq before i found that out)

[deepsouth]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

Second cycle but bring the Eq up to 500-600mg/wk and also run your Test 1 week long than you EQ. Both EQ and Deca take closer to 17 day to clear-everything else looks good

[horsepwr]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

From my experience with the new 10mg dbol tabs. If you have those, you'll get better results from 3 of those a day than you would 10 of the old pink thais. If you don't believe me, you'll see. I used to run 50mg of d-bol every first 4-5wks. (10 pink-thais a day). It's a waste to run 5 of those new 10mg dbols. They rock at 30mgs. Hard to believe, just give it a go and you'll see.
Now if you have any 5mg dbol. Run 50mgs. I've ran a few different brands of 5mg d-bol, and I always liked 50mgs. The new 10mg definitely seem higher dosed.

[gearhead101]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

Cool, thanks horsepwr. Yep, they are actually 10mg Napo$im. Not sure if that was what you were referring to as he new 10mgs or not. Thank you guys for the feedback. Looks like I've got it planned out. I'll keep you posted with the results.

[horsepwr]

Re: Back in the Game! Conservative Cycle

hmm...You might wanna give 50mgs a go with those. Just to see. Your strength should shoot through the roof every wk with dbol.
and like everybody else said. If you're not wanting to hold too much water, go with eq instead of deca.