First Cycle, How does it look? Deca/Winny

[mint120]

I know I have herd everything about adding a test such as test e, or test c, but I do not want the side effects of the test.

I only have 15ml of Winny will this be enough?

I am 6'0 195lbs good workout routine, very healty diet, I just want to put on some muscle and get a little cut up.

Is this cycle properly designed and will the 15ml of Winny be enough to run EOD for 4 weeks?

( Im trying to get another 5ml so i can stretch it to 5 weeks on the winny)

W1 - 300MG Deca (tt)
W2 - 300MG Deca
W3 - 300MG Deca
W4 - 300MG Deca
W5 - 300MG Deca
W6 - 300MG Deca
W7 - 300MG Deca
W8 - 300MG Deca/200MG Winstrol Depot (Zambon) EOD
W9 - 300MG Deca/200MG Winstrol Depot
W10- 300MG Deca/200MG Winstrol Depot
w11- 200MG Winstrol Depot


Clomid 3 weeks after last shot of Deca.
100mgs for 10 days then 50mgs for 10 days.

[GSU7]

What test side effects are you referring to? And i would definitely try to get enough winny to run it at least 6 weeks.

[Josh]

shoot 50mg ed of winny IMO

[mint120]

whats IMO and why I have read NEVER to run winny more then 5 weeks..

Also why take the Winny every day, instead of every other day?

[CanadianJuicer]

Winny should typically run 6 weeks and longer is not cool due to joint discomfort. I am also curious to know exactly what side effects of test you are talking about. Deca alone may not be such a great idea for you. Deca dick is not a myth to screw around with!!

[mint120]

acne.. mood... other such things that are more intense/obvious with test

[BigD]

Deca dick is not a myth, though I've never gotten it. I would use a little test, or have something androgenic on hand, in case that happens. Also, winny doesn't have to be run 50mg/ed, especially as a first cycle. I would do 25/ed, 30 at most! If you do deca only, then deca 1-10, winny 9-12. If you get more winny, run it 7 or 8-12, start clomid 2 or 3 days after your last winny inj. If you add test to the cycle, then just 250/week should probably stave off decadick, and add to your gains. Good luck whatever you choose!

[Massive1]

Re: First Cycle, How does it look? Deca/Winny

Originally posted by mint120
I know I have herd everything about adding a test such as test e, or test c, but I do not want the side effects of the test.

I only have 15ml of Winny will this be enough?

I am 6'0 195lbs good workout routine, very healty diet, I just want to put on some muscle and get a little cut up.

Is this cycle properly designed and will the 15ml of Winny be enough to run EOD for 4 weeks?

( Im trying to get another 5ml so i can stretch it to 5 weeks on the winny)

W1 - 300MG Deca (tt)
W2 - 300MG Deca
W3 - 300MG Deca
W4 - 300MG Deca
W5 - 300MG Deca
W6 - 300MG Deca
W7 - 300MG Deca
W8 - 300MG Deca/200MG Winstrol Depot (Zambon) EOD
W9 - 300MG Deca/200MG Winstrol Depot
W10- 300MG Deca/200MG Winstrol Depot
w11- 200MG Winstrol Depot


Clomid 3 weeks after last shot of Deca.
100mgs for 10 days then 50mgs for 10 days.

This cycle is trouble in the making. Your gf is gonna want to know what happen to your dick. And everyone at your gym is gonna wonder were your gains went. Not enough winny you've been warned. If you don't want to do test DO NOT do the dec bro.

[Gearhead]

you need test in there. for your first cycle i would say

wk 1-10 test 250mg
wk 1-10 deca 300mg
wk 8-12 winny 50mg ed

maybe some clomid in the end
might even need nolvadex just in case.

[Massive1]

Originally posted by Josh
shoot 50mg ed of winny IMO

Bingo!!

or more 50-100mg

[mint120]

So the only reason that I would really have to add in the test is to avoid Deca-Dick right?

Would d-bol do anything for this?

If I am going to add in the test, what would be the best with the least side-effects, and keep the most gains?

Either Cyp or Enanth right? What are my other options?

[bigpimpc]

Originally posted by Josh
shoot 50mg ed of winny IMO

and pray you dont get deca dick

[mint120]

What is IMO?

Also only 300mg of Deca will cause Deca Dick???

I have heard that it only effects some people

What is the best test to add into this cycle?

[Josh]

IMO = in my opinion

Yes - 300mg of Deca can cause deca dick especially when combined with winny because they both have a low androgenic effect.

IMO i would say test enth 500mg

pm me for a price check on any gear your getting if you want....

[Massive1]

Originally posted by mint120
What is IMO?

Also only 300mg of Deca will cause Deca Dick???

I have heard that it only effects some people

What is the best test to add into this cycle?

IMO= in my opinion

1 shot can do it bro, less than 300mg

deca is potent shit, that will shut you down hard and long

I'm a sust fan