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  • Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

    a good bud wanted to know what you guys thought would be a good "hardening"? cycle...I guess he wants to harden up and maybe cut a little fat...

    Anyways he has mast., test. p, winny, and tren a on hand...

    I said id ask if anyone gets extra time

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    2-Swole

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    Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

    well, those sound like the ingredients i utilize in my cutting cycles.
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    • #3
      Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

      Originally posted by BigDawg View Post
      well, those sound like the ingredients i utilize in my cutting cycles.
      yea thats what he has..if anyone has a good cycle set-up using these please post it. I think he needs to get his diet in check first personally but whatever promised him id ask

      2-Swole

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        Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

        how many cycles has he done? don't want to have him over do it if he's new to cycles

        personally i would run 300-400 of test and Deca week 1-6, 7-12 i would run prop/tren at 200 and 100 eod. for me, i am not crazy about winny cause it dries my ligaments and tendons

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          Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

          Originally posted by skinnyman View Post
          how many cycles has he done? don't want to have him over do it if he's new to cycles

          personally i would run 300-400 of test and Deca week 1-6, 7-12 i would run prop/tren at 200 and 100 eod. for me, i am not crazy about winny cause it dries my ligaments and tendons
          he has done maybe 4 cycles...he has used winny a few times that i know of and has done some hgh before. Id say moderate experience...just stubborn lol He wants to CUT and Harden

          2-Swole

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            Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

            Originally posted by 2-Swole View Post
            yea thats what he has..if anyone has a good cycle set-up using these please post it. I think he needs to get his diet in check first personally but whatever promised him id ask

            2-Swole
            exactly! You can run whatever you want and cut or bulk. What really does the work is the adjustments in the gym and at the dinner table. Of course there are a couple steroids out there that I'd stay away from if I were trying to cut, like deca, and...well, that's about the only one I can think of that bloats the hell outa folks, and does the opposite of what he's trying to do. But really it's that diet like you said, and rigorous training. He does have his AS in check though if you ask most folks.
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            • #7
              Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

              Originally posted by 2-Swole View Post
              he has done maybe 4 cycles...he has used winny a few times that i know of and has done some hgh before. Id say moderate experience...just stubborn lol He wants to CUT and Harden

              2-Swole
              If he's done only 4 cycles and imo, this may be a bit much. he can cut down on the test a bit and still get good results. if he's never done tren before, this can be an experience. besides the cough, it thickens your blood and you get real vascular. May get some real funky dreams as well.

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                Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

                Just for the record- I have done 5 cycles w/Tren and done as much as 100mg/ED for 17 wks and never had the cough

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                • #9
                  Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

                  Mow- I've never run Masteron, but if I had all that on hand, I'd be looking at:
                  Test Prop/Tren- then finish up w/Winny

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                    Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

                    yep, what deep said. I don't have any experience with Masteron either, but test & tren. Then run the winny out at the end. right up to the day before pct.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

                      Deep you are lucky! lol. I have had it two times, which is good considering how much I run it. I wasn't even done injecting and starting coughing uncontrolably. OMG it was terrible. You can't breath because the cough is nonstop etc. Worst thing ever. But it is still my drug of choice. Like the rest said, run the prop/tren, finish up with Winny. The doses are up to him and what he has on hand (we don't know what he has) and how long he can run. But if he has done a few, he should know where he is at with doses. And like it was mentioned, the gear is only the aid, the diet is what gets you what you want- whether that is cut or mass. I've done both on prop/tren. Wish him luck. Ultimate

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                      • #12
                        Re: Buddy's Hardening Cycle...

                        run prop and npp with some anavar and winny
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