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  • horsepwr
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    back atcha for being one of the few worthy of representing the good attributes of GHB, and what sounds like extremely responsible usage.

    There wasn't a single soul in my neck of the woods back in the mid 90s when g hit the scene pretty hard that even thought twice about dosing correctly. The stronger the better, and a cap was just standard dosing procedure. yeah...it was a crazy time.

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  • firstenrgy
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    Originally posted by horsepwr View Post
    oh yeah man, I totally agree. GHB is a naturally produced chemical in the body. It won't hurt you used correctly. It's not for just anyone though. And there is a huge difference in the results of alcohol abuse compared to GHB abuse. One thing, as already mentioned, is death occures much easier with GHB. 2) Yes, there are belligerent drunks, but if you've ever witnessed a belligerence that someone can produce from G, it redifines the word.
    Then you have people that never loose composure. It's the fuktards that dump 2 caps in a females drink to scoop her out, and those that over do it, then can't control themselves that gave it a bad name.
    Thank you horsepwr, that was part of the point I was trying to make.
    You are right were the capin issue was one of the reasons it was taken off the market. Not the best way to get a correct dose. Using an oral syringe and a much more diluted product helps tremendously in getting better dosing control. My mixture is were a correct dose is 2 ml's. If I dosed 2.1 ml's I'm only 5% off in dosing. Not enough to make a big difference. The old cap method would leave you with 20%+ difference between an underfilled or overfilled cap. Rep to ya bro.

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  • horsepwr
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    Originally posted by firstenrgy View Post
    Too much of anything will kill you. If your not smart enough to correctly dose then you probably are too imature to have neither alcohol or ghb.
    If someone posted yeah AAS, too much of that stuff will kill you! Everyone on the board would jump all over them. Making the same statement about G like that is the same thing.
    If your bright enough to read and use a scale, mix with water so your dose is not measured in tenths of an ml, use an oral syringe to get an accurate dose, it is far safer than alcohol.
    oh yeah man, I totally agree. GHB is a naturally produced chemical in the body. It won't hurt you used correctly. It's not for just anyone though. And there is a huge difference in the results of alcohol abuse compared to GHB abuse. One thing, as already mentioned, is death occures much easier with GHB. 2) Yes, there are belligerent drunks, but if you've ever witnessed a belligerence that someone can produce from G, it redifines the word.
    Then you have people that never loose composure. It's the fuktards that dump 2 caps in a females drink to scoop her out, and those that over do it, then can't control themselves that gave it a bad name.

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  • firstenrgy
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    Too much of anything will kill you. If your not smart enough to correctly dose then you probably are too imature to have neither alcohol or ghb.
    If someone posted yeah AAS, too much of that stuff will kill you! Everyone on the board would jump all over them. Making the same statement about G like that is the same thing.
    If your bright enough to read and use a scale, mix with water so your dose is not measured in tenths of an ml, use an oral syringe to get an accurate dose, it is far safer than alcohol.

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  • horsepwr
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    ...I definitely wouldn't recommend g to anyone though. Especially if i didn't know them.

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  • horsepwr
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    killed me twice. I was pretty excessive with it though. I'd forget I just took a cap 10 minutes ago and just be feeling good and dose up again. I was young, very stupid, reckless, immature, and somewhat didn't care back then either. If taken responsibly, it's harmless. There's just that fine line, little dab'l-do-ya factor. It's all about resposibility with that stuff. I wasn't responsible at all with it in those days.

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  • O2BESOHUGE
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    I AGREE GHB CAN BE DANGEROUS...TAKING TOO MUCH OF THAT WILL KILL YOU

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  • firstenrgy
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    Originally posted by hx4 View Post
    GHB can be dangerous stuff bro, I think i'd rather drink
    What experience do you have with it that you would say such a thing?

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  • hx4
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    GHB can be dangerous stuff bro, I think i'd rather drink

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  • firstenrgy
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    Alcohol definitly effect gains. Reduction in protein synthesis, additional useless calories...
    Does anyone else use ghb in place of alcohol? I do and I must admit, if I didn't have it, I might wind up drinking 3 nights a week. Now I only drink one night and limit it to 3 or 4 drinks but without ghb, I might be tempted to drink more... For example, tonight I'm going out with the guys and I'll have a steak and some food but no drinks because tomorrow is superbowl sunday and I'll be boozin then. Tonight I'll have some g on me in case I'm tempted to drink.

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  • skinnyman
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    I'm 43, been training since 16 and cycling for the past 8 years. I enjoy coming home from work and winding down to 3-4 JD's with a splash of water. I know it is no excuse but my position is quite stressfull and i find that the alcohol allows me to relax. Outside the alcohol, keep in mind, I maintain a very strict diet, excersise and rest regimen. You may be right in that I could be making better gains if the alcohol wasn't in the picture. However, I have been not been in better shape since my mid thirties.

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  • badasz32
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    when i was in college i would rage on the weekends get hammered and do all sorts of stupid shit. I was always able to make gains in size and strength.

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  • 956Vette
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    Originally posted by blacktail View Post
    Ya thats what i told him! It seems like he falls in the catagory of one that can handle it. He is growing nicely, but could he be growing better! I will pass this along to him and see if he will cut it back! Thanks guys!!
    What are his goals? Just to go out and abuse himself and pray on women at the local bars? There are differences imho. You, as a friend need to access that and gauge your friendship accordingly

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  • blacktail
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    Ya thats what i told him! It seems like he falls in the catagory of one that can handle it. He is growing nicely, but could he be growing better! I will pass this along to him and see if he will cut it back! Thanks guys!!

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  • FUZO
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    When I drank I always had good gains while on maybe if I didnt drink I would of had better but who knows. I can see he wouldnt have good gains because of being hung over and not eating, not getting enough sleep those factors. But I still took in my calories and all my natural supplements also. So who really knows.But I will say this if he is drinking 4 nights a week there might be a problem coming his way.

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