Prop?

[darmadoc]

For my second cycle I was thinking of running 10 wks of

Cyp 500/wk
Eq 400wk

I will use liquidex because I want to absolutely minimize bloating, and will use post-cycle clomid.

My question is about "jump starting" the cycle. I can't take dbol as only 15- 20 mg almost killed me in my first cycle. I wonder if there would be any value in adding prop 50-100 ed or eod to the first 4 weeks of the cycle.

Any suggestions? Thank you for your help.

[BIG N]

try prop 100 ed ,for 2 weeks ,it should work pretty good for ya ,waht happen when u took dbol ???

[iamdwalrus]

Yes I would go and kick start the cycle with prop. 50mg/day of prop is ok too. I would also suggest ending the cycle with prop when EQ's ester is slowly tapering off. What was your first cycle and diet like? Your diet for this one? Goals?

[darmadoc]

Ah yes....diet. Well let me start with my dbol experience. I got back and calf cramps so bad that I couldn't run, or do martial arts or lift. Then my muscle enzymes( CPK)went up to about 7000 and my doctor was afraid my kidneys would shut down. It all went away about a week after I stopped.

My goals on this cycle are complex. I got injured during my first cycle of test and deca. So I had to have surgery (pec rupture) I have been able to do nothing for 2 months but sit and eat. I should get the OK to begin working out this Monday (thank goodness). I plan to do cardio and lift agressively until August. By then I hope to have my base back and my body fat down. Then I can use this cycle to build some lean muscle and strength without a lot of bloating. Thanks for your interest.

[darmadoc]

Any other suggestions?

[rado]

Re: Prop?

Originally posted by darmadoc
For my second cycle I was thinking of running 10 wks of

Cyp 500/wk
Eq 400wk

I will use liquidex because I want to absolutely minimize bloating, and will use post-cycle clomid.

My question is about "jump starting" the cycle. I can't take dbol as only 15- 20 mg almost killed me in my first cycle. I wonder if there would be any value in adding prop 50-100 ed or eod to the first 4 weeks of the cycle.

Any suggestions? Thank you for your help.

This cycle here was very similar to my 1st and I gained 21lbs and kept all of it. Of course I used Test enanthate from QV. I wouldn't add the prop, maybe switch out the cyp for the enanthate.

[lord humongous]

Rado, he said that 15-20mg of d-bol fu**ed with him so that is not an option. Prop would be good to Jump you just like the previous posts said. I have a friend that is very sensitive to D-Bol also, he can take 5-10mg and get great gains, this is another case of trying things and learning from your experiences. Maybe try 5mg's of D-Bol and go from there.

[rado]

Originally posted by lord humongous
Rado, he said that 15-20mg of d-bol fu**ed with him so that is not an option. Prop would be good to Jump you just like the previous posts said. I have a friend that is very sensative to D-Bol also, he can take 5-10mg and get great gains, this is another case of trying things and learning from your experiences. Maybe try 5mg's of D-Bol and go from there.

sorry kid, I miss read it. It's late and I'm a bit drunk I will edit.

[lord humongous]

It is that time of night!

[iamdwalrus]

Dbol and me aren't friends either, even at 15mg/day liver values go up. That's why I had to trade away all of it. i'm sorry to hear about your injury, well, the good thing is you'll be back in training soon. Just don't over-exert yourself and risk injury again(knock on wood).

[darmadoc]

Thanks everybody for your opinions! I think I will go with the prop and maybe try 5mg of dbol. God knows I have a ton left over from my prior cycle.