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**HeHateMe** · 03-05-2003, 11:48 AM

Re: next cutting cycle..starting next monday

Originally posted by hummerluv
Hey guys, i m gonna be starting my next cycle this coming monday......its an oral only cycle.my goal is only to enhance athletic performance, boost my workouts,speed recovery and well might as well cut up. i play football,basketball and run track at the college level.

this is the gear i plan to use for different reasons...
andriol(150 caps,4omg each)...for a lil kick on my workouts, clears quickly out of your urine.
Clenbuterol(150 tabs)..for extra boost and cutting up.
winstrol(400 tabs)...for recovery, cutting up and a lil extra stenght.

Also plan to run it with some andro(2 weeks),creatine,glutamine,protein shakes(twice a day), some nolvadex, a liver protector(legalon 150), a multi V, and fatty acids omega 3000 and some ZMA.

how should i mix it up?? any thoughts?
stats r... 6' 2'' 220 lbs 18%BF.....i m natural, and the only purpose for this cycle is to avoid overtraining im in the off-season right now, since i ll be training about 5 to 6 hrs daily. doing some olympic lifts,weigth training, running and plyometric trainign as well. i also got my gear at awesome prices due to my overseas connection. all of it for about $150(andriol,clen,winny,legalon and novaldex). plz help in how to stack it up, im thinking of a 12 wk mild cycle

well andriol is pretty much useless IMO...but i believe the avg dose is around 6 per day...so at that dose you'd have enough for 25 days---you'd need another 150 just to run it for 7 weeks...also, what mg are the winny?

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 12:00 PM

winny 2 mg and clen o.o2

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 12:00 PM

i dont need to get big at all, just speed recovery and a lil extra energy

**HeHateMe** · 03-05-2003, 12:24 PM

hmm...well if that's all you have...then i'd do something like this: Winny 20mg/day/40days Andriol 200mg/day/30 days Clen 2 weeks ECA 2 weeks Clen 2 weeks throughout I wouldn't expect a whole heck of a lot from this cycle though. I'd really try to get some test cyp or enth though and run that 400mg for ten wks with the winny at 20mg/day for the last 6 weeks

**HeHateMe** · 03-05-2003, 12:33 PM

or instead of stacking the andriol and the winny you could just do the andriol at 240mg/day for 25 days followed by the winny at 20mg/day for the next 40 days while rotating the ECA and Clen every 2 weeks throughout...though this is a very mild cycle and i wouldn't expect very much...you really need some more stuff

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 12:35 PM

i had on mind....
clen for 12 weeks...1 pill daily for 4 weeks then up to 2 for 2 wks and then back down to 1 after a week off and repeat, winny for 7 weeks.....6/day, 8/day 10/day 9/day 10/day 8/day 6/day, andriol for 4 wks 4/day 6/day 8/day 3/day,creatine & protein all the time. a liver protector the last 4 weeks since its all oral and two weeks of nolvadex. what do ya think? and what results should i expect?

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 12:39 PM

hmm again i dont wanna get big or bulk up, since it would affect my running, just some extra kick, then again i would even do it natural! just creatine and protein but i happened to come across this stuff for really good prices. will i feel anything on this?

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 12:40 PM

i would think that it would give me a lil' extra kick more than if i was just natural,woulndnt it?????

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 12:45 PM

i got andriol and andro. dont really care about the andro...hoping the andriol would do some, a friend of mine used it and tol me he liked it, not to bulk up but to help his workouts and recovery, also put about 12 lbs of lean mass in his cycle of andriol and winny. he didn t use clen which i got..i m hoping to reach similar results while shredding some BF

**HeHateMe** · 03-05-2003, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by hummerluv
i had on mind....
clen for 12 weeks...1 pill daily for 4 weeks then up to 2 for 2 wks and then back down to 1 after a week off and repeat, winny for 7 weeks.....6/day, 8/day 10/day 9/day 10/day 8/day 6/day, andriol for 4 wks 4/day 6/day 8/day 3/day,creatine & protein all the time. a liver protector the last 4 weeks since its all oral and two weeks of nolvadex. what do ya think? and what results should i expect?

bro, 1-2 pills of clen isn't gonna do anything for 99% of ppl (though it is a good idea to start off slow to see what your tolerance level is)...personally, i need 5 or 6/day...i'd get some eca and alternate that with the clen...i'd run the andriol and winny like i suggested...you can get a 9 week cycle outta it (albeit a very mild one) you really do need some more stuff

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 12:58 PM

about the clen, how do u meassure up your tolenrance level or how do u know that is it? i used diet fuel for eca and i had good results with half the dose, so i m assuming ill get good results by starting slow. never been on clen b4 though

**Massive1** · 03-05-2003, 02:35 PM

or instead of stacking the andriol and the winny you could just do the andriol at 240mg/day for 25 days followed by the winny at 20mg/day for the next 40 days while rotating the ECA and Clen every 2 weeks throughout...though this is a very mild cycle and

That's the answer. Really you don't have enough stuff bro. Keep the winny @ 20mg ed, no need to pyramid.

**jack hust** · 03-05-2003, 03:06 PM

need more gear bro thats not enough

**hummerluv** · 03-05-2003, 06:57 PM

not enough for what???????
like i said i just like to speed up recovery and may be have an extra kick in my workouts. wouldnt it do the job for a few weeks??

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