deca/winnie

[superd]

hey, I have a question, I am 240 lbs. 6'3 broad shouldered, and have about 20 - 24 % body fat. I am not fat but I look big. my question is tat I am on my first cylcle, I'm doing deca and winnie, a coulple guys told me that deca would put a little size on and that I would get hard off it, and the winnie would cut me up. I do cardio 30 min. a day after my workout 6 days a week. I go hard all the time, I eat very clean, lots of protein low carbs. Is this right what I am doing and is the deca and winnie going to help me.

[Juice Authority]

Why Deca for your first cycle? I would go with a single ester like Test Enan or Cyp for 10 weeks. Deca can really shut one down at the level of the testes making them unresponsive to LH. When I came off deca it literally killed my sex drive for about 4 months...I'll never touch it again. Don't get me wrong, It lubricates and "heals" the joints and has personally helped me many times with joint problems due to heavy training.

Bad thing was "deca dick" which some people get and some don't. I unfortunately did. Didn't use test though with it or proviron or anything adrogenic to make up for it. Also it bloated me alot but I was also eating like a fat slob.

My nuts shrunk to a size i have never seen before when i took deca, and 12 weeks out from a cycle i still have low natural test levels. I can stay on test or even fina for a very long peroid of time , and be able to get my test levels back to normal within 4 weeks after a cycle.

Deca is just not worth the extra shut down. If i did deca again , i would run HCG atleast twice durring the cycle. I think that's it for deca though...

[Massive1]

Deca and tests go together. It's a must.

[ELLAS]

Bro I hope you know its a no no to run orals more than 4-6 weeks, if not then do some research and dont listen to ur friends. Personalyy, I would rather do TEST b4 deca if ur looking to lean up.

[x|Fluid|x]

Neither deca or winny will cut you up. Deca is primarily a drug used for mass cycles. Winny will add cuts and definition to those who already have low-moderate BF (less than 15%), but I dont think it will really do much for you, other than add a few pounds of muscle.

Something like Clen or T3 would probably benefit you alot more than AAS.

..and like Juice Authority stated; deca will shut your HPTA down hard meaning that you may have impotency problems during your cycle. Your buddy's may or may not have experienced this, but why take a chance? Testosterone should be the base of virtually every cycle.

[jack hust]

fluid hit it on the nose

[HeHateMe]

definitely diet down some before you embark on a cycle...maybe alternate clen and ECA every two weeks for 8-10 weeks or so...20-24% bodyfat is pretty high