bro's what you think about this cycle..???

[diggi]

I've been clean for about a year now.. have over 5 cycles under my belt.. did both cutting and bulking..my last cycle was Tren A, Prop and Winny got awesome results.. now.. as I've been clean for a long time.. I feel fresh and ready to play the game once again. I'm thinking about doing a cycle that will help me put on some mass size however, not alot of bloat or fat.. so here's what I have in mind.

Week 1-12 Tren A 75mg ED.
Week 1-14 Test Enan 500mg
Week 1-16 Equipose 600mg

With this I get strenght (Tren and Eq)...nice tight pumps..vascularity.. Test will help with obviously test production... and some mass gains.. now would you stick with this or replace EQ with NPP..or leave as it is. -

[TestRip7]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

Alot of people love the effects of NPP over Eq. I personally prefer EQ. much more just because of the results I get with it over the NPP. For me though I have to go around 750mg or more a week to get the results that I want. If it were me too I would be hesitant to run tren and NPP together. Everything else looks good though, you should see some nice gains from that right there.

[bgpittbull81]

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i like both npp and EQ..but if i had to choose one it would be EQ why i dont know.......600mg a week does me good......


cycle looks good..i like to run my tren e around 400..but thats just me...

[horsepwr]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

A year off bro it will blow your mind. You will respond like your first. We are all different but that cycle is excellent quality mass and just straight good looking size for me. IMO great cycle. I would like to hear back from you even 4 weeks in.

[daddy1122]

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thats not a too long to run tren A.. thought it was pretty toxic to your body.. Never seen it ran that long before but maybe im trippin.. just wondering..

[powerlifter22]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

. I would like to hear back from you even 4 weeks in.

so you can hear about his water gains?

[horsepwr]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

so you can hear about his water gains?

A month into that same cycle I'd be a roadmap vascular and be looking and lifting great. Nothing like a gram of test, d-bol, deca stack. Totally opposite bro, what?

[powerlifter22]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

The body will change in a month, but I dont think any of it is muscle.. you'll get some extra veins from the rbs and all that but a month in i dont think he'll have any concrete gains

[GBAGH]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

I have just a few suggestions. If this were my cycle I would run it a little bit differently.

Number one, the equipoise and the testosterone stay in your system for about the same amount of time. Thus I would not run them on a different schedule. I would start the testosterone and the equipoise at the same time and end them at the same time. If you decide that you want to run the equipoise for 16 weeks then I would do the same with the test as well.

Number two, I like trenbelone better at the end of the cycle. Your decision to run the tren for 12 weeks is a fine decision, but I think that you will like how it hardens you up better at the end of the cycle. In fact, if you are running the test and the eq for weeks 1-16, then I would run the tren weeks 7-18. This would let you take full advantage of the trenbelone and let the trenbelone stay in your system to fight off losses while you are coming off of the test and the equipoise. A lot of people use short esters at the end of a cycle to let them go from "on" to PCT with minimal interruptions.

Number three, if you were using the tren at the beginning of the cycle as a kind of kickstart you have a few other options. My suggestion would probably be to run a moderate dose of dianabol at the beginning of the cycle to kick things off. Something in the order of 40mg per day for the first four weeks would probably do you just fine. Also, the dianabol is a drug that aromatizes into estrogen (just like the testosterone and the equipoise) so the side effects could be combatted with the same drugs. Whenever you are mixing drugs it is never a bad idea to be able to keep all your anti-e eggs in one basket.

With all of that being said I would run the cycle like this...

Enanthate...500mg per week...weeks 1-16
Equipoise...600mg per week...weeks 1-16
Dianabol...40mg per day...weeks 1-4
Trenbelone...75mg per day...weeks 7-18
Aromasin...12.5mg per day...weeks 1-21 or 22

In weeks 19 through 21 or 22 you can run your PCT however you would normally run it. My gold standard for PCT includes HCG and nolvadex, but since you have five cycle under your belt you know what works better for you than I do.

This is just my two CCs. Good luck with your cycle bro. I hope that it kicks ass for you.

[horsepwr]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

Of coarse not. But have you ever spoke to someone even after 2 weeks running tren ed for the first time? That's what I'm talking about. He'll be on top of the world after a year break. A month into that little cycle and he'll be throwing weight around, feeling, and looking great. That's all I meant. I know that none of it will be concrete gains in week 4 but if you look at me on that same stack 4 weeks in I look concrete. Not to mention the strength from the tren alone.

[Rolsroyce]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

I have just a few suggestions. If this were my cycle I would run it a little bit differently.

Number one, the equipoise and the testosterone stay in your system for about the same amount of time. Thus I would not run them on a different schedule. I would start the testosterone and the equipoise at the same time and end them at the same time. If you decide that you want to run the equipoise for 16 weeks then I would do the same with the test as well.

Number two, I like trenbelone better at the end of the cycle. Your decision to run the tren for 12 weeks is a fine decision, but I think that you will like how it hardens you up better at the end of the cycle. In fact, if you are running the test and the eq for weeks 1-16, then I would run the tren weeks 7-18. This would let you take full advantage of the trenbelone and let the trenbelone stay in your system to fight off losses while you are coming off of the test and the equipoise. A lot of people use short esters at the end of a cycle to let them go from "on" to PCT with minimal interruptions.

Number three, if you were using the tren at the beginning of the cycle as a kind of kickstart you have a few other options. My suggestion would probably be to run a moderate dose of dianabol at the beginning of the cycle to kick things off. Something in the order of 40mg per day for the first four weeks would probably do you just fine. Also, the dianabol is a drug that aromatizes into estrogen (just like the testosterone and the equipoise) so the side effects could be combatted with the same drugs. Whenever you are mixing drugs it is never a bad idea to be able to keep all your anti-e eggs in one basket.

With all of that being said I would run the cycle like this...

Enanthate...500mg per week...weeks 1-16
Equipoise...600mg per week...weeks 1-16
Dianabol...40mg per day...weeks 1-4
Trenbelone...75mg per day...weeks 7-18
Aromasin...12.5mg per day...weeks 1-21 or 22

In weeks 19 through 21 or 22 you can run your PCT however you would normally run it. My gold standard for PCT includes HCG and nolvadex, but since you have five cycle under your belt you know what works better for you than I do.

This is just my two CCs. Good luck with your cycle bro. I hope that it kicks ass for you.

18 weeks is a long time to be on. i think most people see gains slow or stop at 12 weeks max.

[powerlifter22]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

gnna b a gear head.. if it is boldenone U it absolutely doesnt stay in the system as long as test e -- it stays a little longer.

RR - i dont think 18 weeks is that long to run a cycle, but i think the dosages, compunds or both have to be changed up to keep progress going.

[Rolsroyce]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

im just saying that if your goal is to keep your natural systems coming back to normal after each cycle then you should maybe want to run your cycles 10-12 weeks and hit PCT. Staying on long time periods just makes it harder for the body to resume normal function. I agree with you powerlifter22, you can change up your drugs and get a few more pounds out of a cycle by extending it in that way but why? An extra month on for a couple of pounds? It really depends on your gaol. If you have a competition of something then i can see the use in it but just to do it,no it would be better to come of and PCT then go back when you can grow more.

[horsepwr]

Re: bro's what you think about this cycle..???

gnna b a gear head.. if it is boldenone U it absolutely doesnt stay in the system as long as test e -- it stays a little longer.

RR - i dont think 18 weeks is that long to run a cycle, but i think the dosages, compunds or both have to be changed up to keep progress going.

I agree. 18 weeks is not at all too long. That's mid cycle for many. With that said, time frame is relative...Well, at least after about 12-15weeks. I think we all agree there isn't much to say for much shorter.

Keep in mind the year long break. IMO he'll/anyone will respond well and hold with a nice little 12 weeker after a year. Take a month and a half breather then let's talk about your next 32 weeker.

[pigmeat]

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10-12 weeks is not long enough for eq imo..i like long cycles..i usually stay on20-25 weeks, unless running something harsh like tren or deca

im just saying that if your goal is to keep your natural systems coming back to normal after each cycle then you should maybe want to run your cycles 10-12 weeks and hit PCT. Staying on long time periods just makes it harder for the body to resume normal function. I agree with you powerlifter22, you can change up your drugs and get a few more pounds out of a cycle by extending it in that way but why? An extra month on for a couple of pounds? It really depends on your gaol. If you have a competition of something then i can see the use in it but just to do it,no it would be better to come of and PCT then go back when you can grow more.