need opinions

[jamescb77]

ok guys tell me which cycle you like better
400mg test cyp/week
350mg tren enth/week
400mg npp/week
60mg tbol/day

so here is my question should i run the tren and the npp or just one or the other. i have ran tren before and liked it and everything else is goign to be in there. also might add in some winni. this is obviously a cutting cycle so tell me what you think

[daved150]

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i havnt tried tren/npp together, but i also was thinking they would be nice together...i'm intrested in the responces here

[bowbow]

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Well people always said you shouldn't run deca and tren together because they both shut you down so hard and are difficult to recover from so this isn't any different.

Personally for a cutter I would do one or the other, I have no experience with npp so can't help there. You don't need alot of drugs for a cut cycle anyway. Just something to preserve muscle and harden you up some which you will have. Diet and cardio will be the key to success.

[solidground]

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unless you want the npp for your joints , i wouldnt use it..i like the cycle with just the tren test tbol

[jamescb77]

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the main reason of the npp is for the joints and im not really worried about being shut down so that's not a concern.

[bowbow]

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the main reason of the npp is for the joints and im not really worried about being shut down so that's not a concern.

Shoulda mentioned that in your original post. Do you need 400 mgs to help with the joints? If so run it to. What the heck.

[jamescb77]

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don't know if i need 400 for my joints but it sure oughta be fun to see if i do lol

[pigmeat]

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might have progesterone sides wit that...i cant run tren and deca togeher..

[Sal Paradise]

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I will soon be trying tren and npp together.
I know the possible prog sides but there are ways to avoid it.
Shut down - well let's just say beenshut down for a while so this won't make a diff.

I don't know how much of a diff the added npp will make but I'm willing to give it a ride and find out.

As far as the amount of supps needed for a cutter I think it depends on where you are at in terms of development and how much support you may need. I also think a factor is how hard you diet and when you hit the cutting really hard.
I for one keep size on and keep trying to add muscle even while cutting. It can be done although there is a cut off.
The longer you keep above that threshold the harder you will have to diet - I'm stricktly speaking of contest dieting.
I tend to hold on out until close to the end and then go balls to the wall with the cutting so the amount of supps I take while "cutting" is fairly high.

But like everything each person is individual and different goals require different approaches.


Sal

[NICKD]

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if you liked the tren before I'd stick with it. I've never ran NPP but I wasn't impressed with deca.
JM.02

[jamescb77]

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well i already started the npp so that's out of the question my question is to add tren with it or not trying to get around 7-9 bf at 275+

[T-Man007]

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I would leave out the tren and keep the npp if you are going to run winny. You stated you are concerned about your joints which usually rolls over into a tendon problem and winny is rough on those of us with tendon probs. Also, winny will dry you out and could aggravate any joint issues you have or are worried about. The NPP should be what you need for the tendons but I'm still not convinced it has the same joint lubricating benefits and the long ester. One of the reasone the long ester helps with joint lubrication is the increase in water, where else is the lubrication going to come from? But, NPP doesn't act like regular deca in that way, it makes you hard and tight, so my assumption is that it's not going to lube the joints like long ester deca would. This is just my opinion, but it makes sense to me. If you think about it, all the aas that make you puffy usually make your joints feel good, so how is one that makes you tight going to do the same thing? Like I said, it's just my theory but you never know. I'm on NPP, OMNA, EQ, Drol right now and so far my joints are good but my tricep tendon is bothering me a little. I know the EQ hasn't really kicked in yet so when it does, the tendon probs should go down. Even with the drol, I'm looking and feeling harder and I don't have the drol bloat I usually get. Usually my face and every thing gets all puffy, but it's not so I'm assuming the NPP is keeping that down.

[jamescb77]

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what about if i drop the winni then what about the tren