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    Ok, I know this question has been asked many times about how to lower test levels before blood work, so sorry asking again. Anyway, is my situation, currently i am on 2ius of GH 5/2 split and been on it for 5 weeks now and my doctor was asking me if i am still taking testosterone (have a history of being caught by her) and i said no and then she was all well if your going to do it i rather you have it prescribed and not buying it on the black market. So i said coo and then she referred me to a doc. that will supposably write me a script for it. Now, here is my question, I have read that GH can increase natural test production as well as free up bound test and make that usable, so what do i need to do to make sure my levels arent super high? The reason i ask is because even though she said he would write me a script i dont want to risk that by having too high of levels and being like well i am on GH and then him not writing it for me cause i "dont need it".. even though technically i dont being 21..

    so if anyone has some input on what i should do to lower my levels that would be great.. or if anyone thinks i should just say forget trying to lower my levels and just be up front with him and take my chances that way (which is what i am kind of thinking about doing) then let me know...

    thanks

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    wow your 21 with low test levels hmmm and you got a doc that is willing to prescribe you test... not to be a jerk or anything but if you got the cash to get gh then why not spend some money on proper pct to get you test levels back to norm after running test??

    as far as does gh raise test levels... again not being a jerk to you but
    GH is expensive and not something you just buy a bunch of and just start shooting away... my point is read learn ,research the stuff your putting in your body your 21 don't you want it to stay looking like a young 21 year old body???

    Read up GH ......we have a great AAS profile section here and section dedicated to just gh igf and insulin
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    • #3
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      Originally posted by snickers1 View Post
      wow your 21 with low test levels hmmm and you got a doc that is willing to prescribe you test... not to be a jerk or anything but if you got the cash to get gh then why not spend some money on proper pct to get you test levels back to norm after running test??

      as far as does gh raise test levels... again not being a jerk to you but
      GH is expensive and not something you just buy a bunch of and just start shooting away... my point is read learn ,research the stuff your putting in your body your 21 don't you want it to stay looking like a young 21 year old body???

      Read up GH ......we have a great AAS profile section here and section dedicated to just gh igf and insulin
      ok, well I think that you got confused.. First off, I have been researching Extensively on AAS for about 4-5yrs now and GH for about a yr. So I am Not new to this at all (post count is low cause I just read, never really post) and have talked to God knows how many doctors about these hormones.
      Second, I don't have low test levels at all, actually I am still in the 800 ranges and your comment about running a proper PCT, well every single PCT I have run has been perfect and every blood work that I have gotten post cycle has been better than my pre-cycle blood work. also yes I know that I am young and don't need Test/AAS/GH, however, my doctor is the one who is referring me (and she is very strict doctor also) she just wants to look out for my health. I don't abuse juice and only use a little because I am young. The reason why I use is cause I rather take a little test and such in low doses because I think its better than taking all my depression/adhd/anxiety drugs because when I am on I never have any of these symptoms (even when i come off cause i do things right).

      Just wanted to clarify all that for you as you were a little off... Not trying to lash out or anything.

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      • #4
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        Why are you experimenting on yourself at 21 with gh and test for that matter? You say you been doing all this research, but you didn't read anything about the age factor? Sounds like you just want some advice to lower your test levels so you can get some test scripted. No way will i do that.

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        • #5
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          well i gues i misunstood then to be honest i never ever heard of someone wanting to purposly lower there test levels i am assuming you want to do this so you get your doc to give you script for test?

          i didn't take your reponce as lashing out...but sorry just don't understand why at 21 you would run this tuff when your not even done growing that is all.

          best of luck
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by mick-G View Post
            Why are you experimenting on yourself at 21 with gh and test for that matter? You say you been doing all this research, but you didn't read anything about the age factor? Sounds like you just want some advice to lower your test levels so you can get some test scripted. No way will i do that.

            ^bump

            i thought i read it right
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            • #7
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              Not trying to knock this kid, but why in hell is he doing gh at 21 and then saying it will lower his nat test, so he wants advice on how to lower it, because his dr ref him to another dr that will provide test. Come on, lol! Bro you don't need anything and your screwing your nat balance up at such a young age. this is what you do..cut everything out and do natural with whole foods and protein and a good multi-vit that is all you need...it willl take time to get your hormones back on track. I know of no dr that will provide a 21yr old with test as a first solution, and it doesn't sound like to me your test are low anyways, so why do you want to intentionally lower it?

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              • #8
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                I know a cpl ways to put it way down but i aint helpin.
                I agree with the others on this one. There is no reason to need anything at 21.
                If you have a legitamate need for HRT style therapy at 21 let the Dr.s handle it thats why they make the big bucks. I wouldnt count on them prescribing you 600mg a week of test with some deca and dbol thrown in though. You will get just enuf to bring it up to natty levels and thats it. They will most likely handle the injections as well. I dont see any MD handing a 21 yr old a cpl bottles of test and sending him on his way.

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                • #9
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                  Ok.. I was expecting some remarks regarding this and will to back it up.. Here it is.. I do have my diet and training in check.. I eat SUPER clean around 3500-4000k a day (will post it if you want me too as i work with an R.D.) and hit 1 body part a wk (some body parts i hit twice a wk and alternate which ones i hit twice) I know not to over train and know what it is as i have done it in the past. heres the thing, even with the high cals and the workouts (14-18 sets per body part wk, as arnold recommends in his encyclopedia which i am sure everyone has read/has) and that works VERY well for me. However, i am blessed/cursed with a very active metabolism which doesnt allow me to get big.. i can get between 185-190 naturally with a low body fat, but i like to be between 195-200.. (am 5'9" btw) and i am NOT trying to screw my levels up and trying to drop them to low 200s if that is what your are all thinking, just a couple hundred, and my doc has done this with people my age but yes a low dose.. and that is all i am saying. already read up on some ways to lower my test that has been shown to work clinically but probably not going to end up doing it. just going to sit down with the endo. and talk to him (done this many times before and one of the endos. tried to write me igf-1 script cause we had a very in depth discussion) Another thing is why do you guys keep hitting on the age thing, a lot of very respected people that i read posting on the boards started at my age and lower and do not regret it nor do they have permanent damage done where they wish they would have waited. and ya the only reason why i am doing the growth is cause i got screwed and got stuck with it and could not get rid of it so i am running a homeopathic dose of 2iu 5/2 split...

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                  • #10
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                    Kid you are going to do what you want i can see that, so why even ask any questions, lol! For one, "we" are not talking about your diet and training, only that that is all you need. And so you got stuck with some gh, and why may i ask? So you decide you need a "homeopathic dosage" at your age of 21? You don't. You did ask us to give you advice to lower your test so you can get a script, and im just telling you that "I" personally wont do it, and if you find a dr that will do it, and give kids your age and younger test as treatment for nothing, then he/she practicing unethically imo. From what iam hearing from you, there is nothing wrong with you other than you have a high metabo, and some ppl would relish having that, lol! I will add, you may want to have this endo do some testing on the thyroid, maybe you are hyperactive, and there are other tests he can run as well.
                    Last edited by mick-G; 01-25-2007, 09:17 PM.

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                    • #11
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                      well bro you are a man so you can do what you want with your body,if you were 17 or 18 i might be hesitant. Ok you know that taking test will lower your own test but i am thinking you dont have time to run any and bottom out before your Dr.visit. i know over training with severe dieting like competition dieting will bring down your levels and sleep deprivation. But not sure how long you would have to put yourself through that hell to get the levels low. Easiest way would be to block LH but I know of no drug off hand that will do this. If you could make this happen then your testes would get no signal to tell them to produce testosterone and in a few days i would imagine you would be low but trying stuff like this could give you gyno but like I say I dont even know off hand what to take to cause this effect.

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                      • #12
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                        okay i'm not jumping in on this one!

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                        • #13
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                          ok let me rephrase...guys I'm not for this guys topic at all! BUT, that being said most of us (I started at 24) started very very young. Many AAS users start in high school.

                          to new guy:
                          That being said...YOU DONT NEED GH! Period end of story.

                          I will answer your question though. It fairly simple go up to search and check out "low test" or related searches. There was a test fairly recently. The easiest ways are free, over train, sleep deprive. I don't suggest what some guys say and drink alcohol the night before a test because most doctors wont prescribe if your liver enzymse are off, which they will be after a night of drinking.

                          I don't condone your use at your age but I do empathize. The points the bro's above me made are valid and legitamate. You should consider their advice.

                          6p6

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by 6p6 View Post
                            .YOU DONT NEED GH! .

                            The points the bro's above me made are valid and legitamate. You should consider their advice.

                            6p6
                            True

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                            • #15
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                              i answered your post because most people that go on to be champions in our sport started young and needed advice and if you are old enough to go to war then you are old enough to decide what is best for you. I know when I was young I had questions. I am here to help if I can so feel free to ask and I will answer with the knowledge I have been able to gather over the years. Hope I was able to help.

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