Proviron

[grdfreak]

What is everyone's opinion on proviron? Im thinking about it for a mild cutter. with some other tidbits.

[AlmostThere]

Re: Proviron

Its a great add on to a cycle. i wouldnt use it as a base for one. It isnt strong enuf to help you hold on to muscle not even close.

[grdfreak]

Re: Proviron

no I wasnt going to use it alone. My body loves gear and responds very well to it but when I come off of a hardcore stack it takes me(well it used to take me) forever to get back to normal. I have enough mass for my frame as I am 5'7 and 235 about 15% bdyfat. I am just looking to keep the mass I have, get my bf% down to around the 5-8% mark and maybe striate myself a little more. I am on a very clean diet with my working out and cardio in check. I pretty much have access to anything. I have winstrol already. I dont care if I gain any mass as long as i get hard and shredded by summer. I have not been on in almost 3 years so my receptors are nice and fresh!

[TestRip7]

Re: Proviron

Using it along with some type of test is always a plus. Proviron makes it possible for your body to use more of the test that you are injecting. As long as you are using it with some other compounds its got my vote.

[grdfreak]

Re: Proviron

Yea I know of its helpful use with test and its great help with people for post cycle therapy but I was basing my logic on throwing it in my cycle on the hopes that it would intensify the effects of the winny and pull more striations out along with of course cable work. I know masteron is good for striations also as long as your bodyfat is low enough.

[grdfreak]

Re: Proviron

how do you all feel about doing a cutter without any test during the cycle.

[mick-G]

Re: Proviron

Post up your cycle. Proviron will actually raise your natual test levels, but if your on it prob wont do much in that aspect. You will see a hardening of the muscle while using it and an increase in libido. It depends tho on what your cycle looks like as to how your goig to run it.

[HeHateMe]

Re: Proviron

You will see a hardening of the muscle while using it and an increase in libido.

Just how profound is the increase in libido? Is it worth adding to a cycle that will diminish one's sex drive for this effect alone?

[grdfreak]

Re: Proviron

I was thinking maybe eq winstrol and proviron. With no test. Would I keep my test levels around normal if I just took winstrol and proviron? What about eq winstrol and proviron. I mainly worried about coming back post cycle as my body seems to take forever when I try to come back.

[pigmeat]

Re: Proviron

Just how profound is the increase in libido? Is it worth adding to a cycle that will diminish one's sex drive for this effect alone?

oh yeah...i ran deca only back in the day,and added proviron, and was horny as a 2 peckered billy goat for 12 weeks!

[pigmeat]

Re: Proviron

I was thinking maybe eq winstrol and proviron. With no test. Would I keep my test levels around normal if I just took winstrol and proviron? What about eq winstrol and proviron. I mainly worried about coming back post cycle as my body seems to take forever when I try to come back.

no, winny will shut down your normal test production....if anything, just run a low dose of test like 250mg a week...hrt dose.

[mick-G]

Re: Proviron

Just how profound is the increase in libido? Is it worth adding to a cycle that will diminish one's sex drive for this effect alone?

If it is the first time you will be using it, you will notice a def increase in libido, if not it will not be as pronounced. It is not going to dramatically increase it. I usually use it post cycle right after my last inject and thru pct to help increase nat test levels and help retain gains. Grdfreak, i would def use at least a low dosage of test with that cycle. If you do you won't really need the proviron, and if you don't, the proviron may help alittle with nat test levels, but you will still be pretty much shut down, because eq is a test derivative and winstrol is 17aa. Both together will def change your hormone levels. Try at least 250mg/wk of test with it depending on how much eq you will be using. Save the proviron for post cycle. I use it about 2wk b4 cycle ends sometimes, then the 2-3wks after my last inject with hcg, then stop hcg, continue running proivron thru pct along with clomid. It is a personal issue tho with if you want to run the proviron with the cycle or not, but def use some test.

[jipped genes]

Re: Proviron

testrip is right proviron actually binds to sexhormone binding globulin allowing more of the other gear to exert an effect. it also acts as a weak anti E.

oh and your sex drive will be through the roof!

it is great stuff

[T-Man007]

Re: Proviron

Yea I know of its helpful use with test and its great help with people for post cycle therapy but I was basing my logic on throwing it in my cycle on the hopes that it would intensify the effects of the winny and pull more striations out along with of course cable work. I know masteron is good for striations also as long as your bodyfat is low enough.

Striations are a genetic thing, some people have really good ones, some don't. You won't know until you get down to the 2-4% range just how good they are. You may get lucky at 5%, but that's about as high as one can be and expect to see detailed striations. But, some guys can get down to that 4% range and genetically, they just don't have the same striations as other guys. As far as cable work, that's not going to make any difference. Cables are just isolation, they won't change your genetics. Some people swear by them but I've seen guys with sick striaitons and they don't do anythign but db's and bb's. It's basically going to come down to genetics. You either have them or you don't, you'll know as soon as you get down below 5%.

[SMILEY FACE]

Re: Proviron

u can run it for pct or during cycle at 25 mg