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  • #16
    just the basic stuff here

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    • #17
      What if i'm only taking 250mg of sust right now, and I'm on week 6 of 10, would it hurt that bad to up it to 500?

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      • #18
        are you unhappy with your results from 250mg? what's your cycle look like?

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        • #19
          I am planning on frontloading with Organon Sust and switching to ICN's after 2.5 weeks. I'm doing this to get test in my system right away. The cycle will look like this:
          1-4 Naps at 25mgs (I cramp real bad on dbol)
          1-3 750mgs organon Sust
          2-10 750mgs ICN's (lots of test in weeks 2-4)
          1-10 600mgs QV EQ
          7-12 100mg/day BossMann's Fina
          Liqidex all all that good stuff.

          I'll let you know how that works out in about 4-5 months.

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          • #20
            I never believed in frontloading etc. I just stick with the same dose throughout the cycle. Find out what the half-life of each chemical you want in you. That's usually how I plan out my cycle. Of course there are other things I take into consideration, depending on what results I would like. Anyway, keep it simple.
            Perfect Body = State of Mind + Lifestyle

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            • #21
              Ok I this is my current cycle
              1-10 250mg sust
              1-10 200mg deca
              I am happy with the rtesults I am getting I just want to get the most out of this first cycle. My strength has gone through the roof. I am on week 6 and my good friend that hasn't seen me in like 4 weeks walked in my house yesterday and the first words out of his mouth were "whatever on that" and pointed at my arms. I needed that because I lift with obscured and he sees me everyday so it's hard for him to tell. I can feel the difference. So I guess I am going to frontload my second cycle to look like this.
              1-6 750mg sust
              6-10 500 mg sust
              1-4 d-bol
              1-10 400mg deca
              post-clomid
              It is very possible it could change between now and then. What do ya bros think?

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              • #22
                THe test doses may be a little high for a second cycle imo. I'd run the sust 500 straight through is that's all you're using. Try and keep those test levels in your blood even so you get the best results.

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                • #23
                  So I shouldn't frontload at all?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Gladiator
                    So I shouldn't frontload at all?
                    i don't think for a second cycle you need to front load, especiually if you jump start it with dbol

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                    • #25
                      i would just do
                      test 500mg/wk 1-10
                      deca 400mg/wk 1-10
                      dbol 35mg/day 1-4
                      ldex .5mg/day till end of clomid
                      clomid post cycle

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                      • #26
                        like bigjim said...since you're using dbol it's really not necessary to frontload...using dbol at the beginning of a cycle sort of acts as a frontload in and of itself...

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                        • #27
                          good old basic style here too
                          I'm the next Scott Steiner...

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                          • #28
                            What is idex, and what does it do?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Gladiator
                              What is idex, and what does it do?
                              Ldex=liquidex. keeps bloat away, keeps gyno away, ect.

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