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**BigSoda** · 12-31-2002, 12:44 PM

I would run the sust for 10 weeks,same as the eq for 10 weeks and up the eq at 400mgs,also dbol at 35mgs

**mbstrong** · 12-31-2002, 12:50 PM

Everything looks well planned out except the sus takes 3 weeks to get out so you need to start clomid 3 weeks after last injection.......Taking the Liquidex at that dose will not hurt.

**jack hust** · 12-31-2002, 03:17 PM

looks good bro all the doses are great for a first cycle but go 10 weeks on sust and eq and make sure to split up your sust shots

**BigSoda** · 12-31-2002, 03:19 PM

yea mondays/thursdays for the sust

**rado** · 12-31-2002, 06:46 PM

Re: first cycle

Originally posted by Francis Drake
Hey bros, this will be my first cycle. I have talked about this a while ago with a few people but some other stuff happened in my life so i put off the cycle for a while. This is how the end result was...

week***sust***d-bol*****EQ**Clomid***Clen
1******500***20mg ed**300**************
2******500***20mg ed**300**************
3******500***20mg ed**300**************
4******500***20mg ed**300**************
5******500************300**************
6******500************300**************
7******500************300**************
8******500************300**************
9**********************************Clen
10*********************************Clen
11************************Clomid as shown below
12************************Clomid as shown below
13************************Clomid as shown below

I will start my clen dosage at 20mcg and increase one pill each day untill sides get too bad. I will hold at that dosage untill day 14.

The clomid will be run 3-4 weeks after my last injection of sustanon, taking 300mg clomid the first day, 200mg the second day, 100mg for 6 days and then 50mg for 12 days.

Now the reason I am asking about this again is becuase i have purchased a good amount of liquidex. I want to take the liquidex with it throughout the cycle to keep away the bloating and to act as an anti-e as well. I want to use .5 ml every day. I know i probably wont need quite that much, but I am not going to use it for anything else, so I might as well.. unless it can hurt something. Thats kind of the main thing i am asking about i guess.. is too much liquidex bad? I do have nolvadex sitting on the side, but i am hoping to not have to use it at all. Any comments welcome... Thanks

Why not run it for 10 weeks instead of 8? Why not up the dosage on the EQ? Dbol would be good around 30-35 ed.

**Disposable_Hero** · 12-31-2002, 07:07 PM

EQ takes usually take longer to kick in than the other drugs(sometimes 5-6 weeks) SoI would reccomend running it for at least 10 weeks..might want to up the dbol to 25mg, everything else looks great.

D_H

**Warrior** · 12-31-2002, 08:51 PM

Poor decsion on your Test. Sust250 is not the right choice if you only want to run 500mg per week. It is not a beginners Testosterone. Get some Test Enanthate (weekly, but more preferably bi-weekly) or Test Cypionate (bi-weekly).

Personally Eq does shit at 300mg per week - especially for only 8 weeks. Deca would be a better alternative. Or up the Equipoise dose. But you never mentioned your age, weight, bodyfat or any personal stats for that matter - so it's hard to judge a correct dose.

**WarbirdWS6** · 01-01-2003, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by BigSoda
I would run the sust for 10 weeks,same as the eq for 10 weeks and up the eq at 400mgs,also dbol at 35mgs

agreed here, EQ and sust for 10 weeks at 750mg/600mg respectively m/w/f injects (or 500mg/400mg if you want more conservative...that would just mean m/th injects). 35-50mg dbol for first half cycle too with arimidex 1/2 tab. again, 35mg conservative and 50mg more aggressive. hey its your first cycle, make the most of it!

**Francis Drake** · 01-01-2003, 11:52 AM

Thanks for the replies. Alright.. seems pretty well accepted that i should up both doses and run them for 10 weeks. So i will do that. I did forget to put in my stats... I am 22 yrs old, 175lbs, 5'9 and i have been lifting for about 7 yrs. 4 years of that time was actually during wrestling though..so i didnt put on very much as far as size goes. I would estimate that i have about 12% bf level now. Think that would change anything, or should i still up the test, eq, and d-bol. I cant really change the sust to enethate or the eq to deca because i already have all 3. I can however up the doses of all 3. If i do that.. should i then raise the amount of liquidex to say... .75ml or 1ml every day? I appreciate the help fellas.. thanks

**WarbirdWS6** · 01-01-2003, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Francis Drake
Thanks for the replies. Alright.. seems pretty well accepted that i should up both doses and run them for 10 weeks. So i will do that. I did forget to put in my stats... I am 22 yrs old, 175lbs, 5'9 and i have been lifting for about 7 yrs. 4 years of that time was actually during wrestling though..so i didnt put on very much as far as size goes. I would estimate that i have about 12% bf level now. Think that would change anything, or should i still up the test, eq, and d-bol. I cant really change the sust to enethate or the eq to deca because i already have all 3. I can however up the doses of all 3. If i do that.. should i then raise the amount of liquidex to say... .75ml or 1ml every day? I appreciate the help fellas.. thanks

more arimidex depends on how gyno prone you are. during dbol, i'd suggest going with .5mg ED (i use pills only....so you can figure it out). for gyno AND bloat. it will give you lean gains....not water and boob's

. EQ you will be alright with the aromatization...sust will of course aromatize some....so depends on the individual on whether to continue arimidex the last half of the cycle. i would run something personally, even an ultra low dose....but i am gyno prone like a mofo. i'm 8 years older....an inch shorter and started out on this cycle at the exact same weight. i am up to 185 last check at 4-4 1/2 weeks. no fat gain at all either. similar BF to you i guess..i have low BF looking bodyparts and a few that are stubborn....so its tough to figure my BF by guessing. but anyway, i think this (the cycle like i had mentioned above) will work well for you.....even though comparing a 22 year old to a 30 year old is a big difference.

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