Your PERSONAL Testosterone dose

[Nytol]

My best gains were on 1000mg of sustanon per week. I had no side effects excepts slightly raised BP. I have never had any side effects whilst on, only acne on my back when I come off. That cycle ran for 5 weeks and got me up to 243lbs at about 10% BF.

I am about to start another sustanon only cycle in about 5 minutes but will be taking 250mg EOD, this works out to 875mg per week, less than before but there have been claims that ED or EOD injecting works better with sust due to the short acting propionate. I am interested to see if this is true. I will let you know my results.

I have dropped some weight since my last cycle so will be trying to get back to where i was rather than add new mass. I think my natural test level is quite high, I have always had a very high sex drive which never goes, even when I come off without HCG or clomid. I am 26 years old.

As a side note, a guy I used to train with gained 16lbs of lean mass using just 1 shot of sustanon per week for 6 weeks. What a bastard!

[Drenten]

Originally posted by Johnson7
Drenten,
You were shooting that much prop just 2x a week?

Actually, it wasn’t twice a week; it was every other day, which works out to 3.5 times a week (3.5 x 300mg = 1050mg).

How were your test levels, did you feel them fluctuate?

The only time I ever really get any acne is when my test levels fluctuate. I could use an absolutely astronomical amount of test and I won’t break out unless the levels don’t stay steady. At 300mg of prop every other day, I don’t break out at all and I definitely feel like I am on an even keel.

[Johnson7]

wow, that is what I want to do, I love prop!

[fireman]

I usually go with 750 mgs to 1gram of short esters. a little more for cyp and enan. I just started back on test in june after 8 years off. about 5 years ago I had a cbc done and my doc said my test levels were very high (4-5 times what they should have been in his opinion). the reason for the test was my uncontrolable bp. The only thing I can think of is my test usage in my teens and early 20's made my body less sensitive to test and I had to produce more. I don't know. I would think that early steroid use would shut down your natural test levels

[bigjim33]

last cycle i was at 550mg/wk. in the fall i will do 600-750mg/wk depending what else i use

[MrEconomist]

I have ran as much as 1200mg/wk, but I like to keep the dosage under or up to 1gram/wk.

[tosmall]

the most I've ever did is 500mg a week , and things went well . I'm looking to try 750mg next . 30yr. 12% bf 5'11" 185lbs.

[prolangtum]

700mg of suspension is working good, ill keep it at that,

5'11 230-240 vary between 11-13% bf, hopefully lower soon

[Governor]

Originally posted by Drenten
For me the gains and the strength are a good bit better at 1 gram as opposed to 500mg. Also, I really don’t see much of a difference in the side effects. At 1050mg a week of Propionate (300mg EOD) the only sides I get are pretty much the same as they are at 500mg a week of Enanthate.

Those sides are:

1. Really oily skin – I mean really oily. It looks like I’m always sweating. I have to constantly go to the bathroom to wash or at least blot the oil off my face. I keep clean undershirts in my desk at work because halfway through the day the upper back area of my undershirt gets soaked with oil. I don’t really get any acne though.
2. I am gyno prone so I use Nolvadex at 30mg a day throughout the cycle and for several weeks after. In fact, I use Nolvadex pretty much all year, usually at 10mg a day when I’m off cycle.
3. My level of assholeishness gets heightened. I have to be really careful not to go off on people.
4. My blood pressure goes up, but a little Dyazide brings that right back down to normal.
5. Headaches. Again, and I’m not really sure why, but using Dyazide pretty much keeps them away.
6. Sleeplessness. I have always had problems sleeping, but on cycle it gets ridiculous. As much as I hate to do it, Valium, which I have a legitimate prescription for, is the only thing that will help.

why do you take nolva at 10 even when your off and not inrecovery?

[Drenten]

Originally posted by Governor
why do you take nolva at 10 even when your off and not inrecovery?

I run long cycles with a lot of test, and estrogen related problems could hit you long after a cycle is over. I find that a low maintenance dose of 10mg a day when off cycle keeps the estrogen problems at bay. Also, when I’m not bulking, I’m usually leaning out; Nolvadex is helpful with fat loss.

[Damonic]

I use 750-1000 mg of sust or cyp a week. Tried 500 mg of sust my first time juicing and saw good results but find 1000mg is the best. Im 26, 275lbs 6'3". Need the dbol in there though.

[molière]

Originally posted by Warrior
Use what works for you. If you do fine at 500mgs - use 500mgs. If you up it to 700mgs with no problems and better results... use 700. But you do need some estrogen conversion, at 500mg of testosterone the only anti-e you really need is 50mg Proviron ED - IMO. 1mg of Proviron per 10mg of Test.

proviron is better than nolvadex for a test only cycle (as far as water retention?)

[Governor]

Originally posted by Drenten
I run long cycles with a lot of test, and estrogen related problems could hit you long after a cycle is over. I find that a low maintenance dose of 10mg a day when off cycle keeps the estrogen problems at bay. Also, when I’m not bulking, I’m usually leaning out; Nolvadex is helpful with fat loss.

oh alright, cool.

[blkturbo]

Originally posted by Damonic

Im 26, 275lbs 6'3".

Holy shit

[Mudge]

Never done more than 580mg a week other than front loads, 6'2" 240 is my peak bodyweight.