Your PERSONAL Testosterone dose

[hostile]

I have been staying in the 600-900 range.

I have no idea what my natural levels are.

I don't see myself ever going over a gram of test.

I am 35.

I think I will be using short esters for a while. (prop or suspension)

[sicilian]

Man if I did a gram of test a week, my prostate would be looking at me in my toilet.
I get excellent gains with 400-500 grams a week of test enthan. With sustanon 500 mg a week work great, and i don't bloat as much on sustanon, but man with more than 500mg of sustanon I get gyno symptoms, prostate problems etc.
How do you guys do that much test a week.
When I am on just 400 mg a week, I am a walking hormone. However, even at 31 my doc says I have a higher test level (naturally) than most, so that could very well be a factor.
Test prop, gives me gyno something terrible, man with some of you guys saying what you are doing, it is hard to believe..... I can't see myself doing that much.
I did 500mg a week of test enthn and I bloated like a balloon. But strong as an ox.
Oh well.. different strokes for different folks..

[buff87]

Highest I've ran to date is 3 ICN's a week... All amps were overfilled too... So I estimate it to be almost 900mg a week... For me I didn't see anymore sides then when I ran 500mg a week and the results were much better...

[Warrior]

DOUBLE J, seems you are on other side and suffering from lower natural levels which begin to decline at 30 for most people.

sicilian, you probably handle less testosterone than others purely do to the fact that you have higher endogenous levels less receptor activity (not too many posted their weight - but they are probably pretty big braddahs). You should keep that in mind when stacking to (since it can give you an idea on your receptors)...

[Ron]

I need at least 750mg/week to get results from test. I have been up to 1200mg. My first cycle I ran 500mg and didn't get much from it. Its was t200 so it was probably more like 400mg but still I got nothing. I'm between 255-260lbs and I'm 30. At my age my natural test levers must be super low.

Running test this high worries me though. My father died earlier this year from Prostrate cancer.

[alwayzgrowing]

my last cycle i went up to 1000mg. loved it. got me up to almost 240

[shorty2big]

600-800mg is what's worked best for myself. Anything over and the sides start to develope with the muscle gain only slightly more then with just the 600-800 dose

by the way, I am 28yo

[Jyzza]

500mg from now on. My last cycle was high and long(4months of test)

[sicilian]

Originally posted by Warrior
DOUBLE J, seems you are on other side and suffering from lower natural levels which begin to decline at 30 for most people.

sicilian, you probably handle less testosterone than others purely do to the fact that you have higher endogenous levels less receptor activity (not too many posted their weight - but they are probably pretty big braddahs). You should keep that in mind when stacking to (since it can give you an idea on your receptors)...

Thanks Warrior any suggestions?
Hell when I am doing test, I live on Anti E's,
BTW so damn good to see ya Ron!!!! Man I feel like this is an AR reunion here. LOL.
Also not that I am braggin but I am pretty big ole boy myself.. 205...

[Warrior]

Originally posted by sicilian
Thanks Warrior any suggestions?

Use what works for you. If you do fine at 500mgs - use 500mgs. If you up it to 700mgs with no problems and better results... use 700. But you do need some estrogen conversion, at 500mg of testosterone the only anti-e you really need is 50mg Proviron ED - IMO. 1mg of Proviron per 10mg of Test.

[sicilian]

Okay thanks Warrior, I usually stick with Armidex, and nolv. I know all about some tests need to aromotase to become effective. I really have problems wiht test prop, that is the worst for me.

[mike1107]

last time it was 1 g/week

[Warrior]

Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
I'm 21, and have only used Test twice. This would be a major factor in the dosage needed. Because receptors can become saturated. Then the dosages needed get large.... also both of my test cycles were about 8 months apart.

That is not true - it is an old theory that simply died out with pyramiding. One of the best ways to put it is this: you have testosterone fllowing through your body your entire life - a few cycles of self admin IS NOT going to "down-regulate" the receptors. If you would like some good reading on this I can get it to you...

The reason we need to increase as we move along is because we simply get bigger and need a higher androgen level to continue making gains. A 230lbs natural bodybuilder would require much more than a 170 pound one with three cycle under his belt.

You could keep the same dose and same cycle for as long as you wish - but after awhile it simply isn't going to create a high enough anabolic environment for you to continue. Same thing with endogenous levels - you natural anabolic environment will only allow you to get so big... so we give it a "boost".

Receptors DO NOT down-regulate. You simply out grow the dose.

[THE JUICE]

I got good results from using 400mg/wk of Test Eth. Next time Im thinking of taking a higher dose around 600mg/wk.

[slobberknocker]

Originally posted by Warrior

The reason we need to increase as we move along is because we simply get bigger and need a higher androgen level to continue making gains.

...and we need more food. IMO, food is at least as important as gear. Sometimes, when I stop growing on cycle, I just start eating more food, and then the gains come again.

If you're 230, and you want to be 250, you need to eat like you're 250. Then when you hit 250 and you want to grow even more, you won't if you keep eating like you're 250, no matter how much more mgs you take. Just another factor to keep in mind in this interesting topic.