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**viper10139** · 02-26-2003, 12:24 PM

no thoughts guys....suggestions....come on bro's!!!

**furldiggity** · 02-26-2003, 12:46 PM

man, you have really done 4 cycles already and only 165, did you go through some surgery or something? What is the most you have ever weighed? I am 6'1'' and started this first cycle at 165, just finished week 6 and i am 181, i am a pretty hard gainer and would like some input on why you are the weight you are, I hope i dont lose lots of muscle coming off seeing i am the really skinny type.

**furldiggity** · 02-26-2003, 12:48 PM

i want to give suggestions, but at 165 and doing 5 different compounds in one cycle, this doesn't seem like an area for me to talk about. My cycle was 500 mg enanthate 1-8 and i'm going to gain 20lbs. You dont think you should cut out some of the compounds, I just dont know enough info to really be much help.

**viper10139** · 02-26-2003, 01:01 PM

well bro...I studied AS for 2 years before I did anything, I started when I was 20...did my first cycle blew up to 185....I gained 38 pounds I was a newbie..didn't know anything about clomid or anything like that...I quit working out...because I got a new girl and I devoted all of my time to her..so I lost everything, then the next cycle test, eq...I blew up 17 pounds...got a little fat...dieting back down way to much..lost it..only kept 4 pounds, however the last 2 cycles have been great, I have been on the boards and I know a lot now..and I have maintained my weight, I don't eat right, but now that has changes thanks to a few special peeps from the boards........so that is why I am the weight I am..and plus my metabolism is out of this world...

**furldiggity** · 02-26-2003, 01:12 PM

i understand the weight loss, some people dont realize how amazingly fast us high metabolism skinny freaks can shred muscle, when i started liftin i gained 25lbs in 6 months, tore my acl and lost 20lbs in 4-5 weeks,

I just dont want you to end up in the same boat another year or two down the road doing more cycles and not keeping the weight because you were not dedicated, but from your post it seems you are pretty dedicated now and realize your mistakes, but still at 165 i would not recommed such a long cycle (which many will say it is not long) or so many different compounds in one cycel, what were your previous 2 cycles consisted of

Just doing my first cycle i would guarantee at 165 their is a phenomenal weight gain to be achieved with 2-3 compounds,

with the drol, decca and test you should be able to hit 190.

if you go to damn donkey, its just gonna make the come off harder, just my 2 cents, consistent gains over a longer period of time tend to stay on us skinny guys better.

**bigjim33** · 02-26-2003, 01:46 PM

looks good bro.....i would do the fina and winny for the last 6 weeks

**jack hust** · 02-26-2003, 01:49 PM

looks good ,best of luck

**viper10139** · 02-26-2003, 02:48 PM

thanks bro's I appreciate it....my last cycle was test 500mg and eq 400mg and dbol 30mg..so I was happy with that however, u have to keep in mind my long story....my X the first 4 weeks...(we were together but during that time she got away and wanted to break up..and finally she dumped me) So I had no desire to do anything so I didn't eat sleep or anything for the first 4 weeks so the last 4 weeks...I had a gut check and busted my butt and gained 15 pounds and I have been clean now for 2 months and I have maintained all 15 pounds!!!!!

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