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[fragmaster3sum]

hey guys any one got any thoughts on my last cycle? i ran 2ml tren 2 ml cyp eod for 6 weeks 3 oxy 50's ed fro 4 weeks then 2 for 2 weeks week 7+8 i ran 400mg deca three times first week then four the second, ran hcg one kit in two jags one jag deep in shoulder week 8 and same week 9 .gained 15 lb only to loose 8lb worrying over a cancer scare ... all clear and cant wait to hit it again...

[jamescb77]

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i think that might be the worst cycle that i have ever seen i don't mean to bash on you but that sucks you need to do some research and get a solid cycle goign if your goign to do a cycle. some problems i notice you ran cyp for 6 weeks well it doesn't even really kick in for 2-4 weeks so you didn't really help yourself much there it needs to be ran 12-16 weeks in my opinion on top of that you ran 1200mg of deca your first week and 1600mg your seconf week and only ran it for 2 weeks. what were you trying to accomplish with this? deca is a long estered compound and that is way to much. whoever gave you that cycle i would not take there advice ever again because it was awful there is a lot of info here do some good reading then post up your cycle and let people make adjustments

[fragmaster3sum]

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hey it came from a pretty big guy who takes these kind of short courses often hey i tried i gained and i lost no biggie il keep tryin... ive asked on here for advice on a course before and didnt get much response,have you ever heard of a company called [edited by nishnish- no mentioning of UG labs allowed. this is your first warning]? they run an alltest (blend of 6 tests? in a 100mg/ml bottle can honestly say that i have felt the effects of cyp a lot sooner than that also?im like a dog on heat with it...ive got 5 10 ml bots of tren 5 tren ml bots of cyp 2 ten ml bots of mast, 1000 d-bol and 2 10ml bots of alltest can get as much deca as i can carry so wot course would you put together fro me? please your opinion is valuable thanks

[jamescb77]

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ok i would run something like this
1-(12-16) test 600-800mg/week (to me test is test just make sure you are taking advantage of your esters cyp only need to be shot 2 times a week i would shoot that blend eod though
1-4 dbol 30-50mg per day
1-(12-16) deca 400mg per week
last 6 weeks i would run the tren 75mg eod

now this cycle is assuming that you are pretty experieced have a good base and have everything else in order in al hoonesty i probaby wouldn't even run the deca i would just do test tren and dbol but hey that up to you

[supasaiyan99]

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hey it came from a pretty big guy who takes these kind of short courses often hey i tried i gained and i lost no biggie il keep tryin... ive asked on here for advice on a course before and didnt get much response,have you ever heard of a company called ying yang? they run an alltest (blend of 6 tests? in a 100mg/ml bottle can honestly say that i have felt the effects of cyp a lot sooner than that also?im like a dog on heat with it...ive got 5 10 ml bots of tren 5 tren ml bots of cyp 2 ten ml bots of mast, 1000 d-bol and 2 10ml bots of alltest can get as much deca as i can carry so wot course would you put together fro me? please your opinion is valuable thanks

OK! First off that cycle in your first post was awful as James mentioned. And I'm not sure of what company you mentioned in the 2nd post, if it's a UG lab then you should not name UG labs in the open forum!!!

Now before anyone can recommend a cycle for you please tells us what are your stats, age, height, weight, cycle history, goals for the cycle....credit card number (just joking), and we will be more than happy to help you out!

[NATE]

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hey guys any one got any thoughts on my last cycle? i ran 2ml tren 2 ml cyp eod for 6 weeks 3 oxy 50's ed fro 4 weeks then 2 for 2 weeks week 7+8 i ran 400mg deca three times first week then four the second, ran hcg one kit in two jags one jag deep in shoulder week 8 and same week 9 .gained 15 lb only to loose 8lb worrying over a cancer scare ... all clear and cant wait to hit it again...

I'm speechless.....

[a-bomb83]

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ditch the alltest IMO. not a fan of multi-ester compounds. that blend has 6 esters? wow, never seen that before. stick with tren/cyp/dbol

what are the concentrations on the cyp and tren? the mg/ml is what i'm asking for. hard to give cycle advice without knowing exactly what you have. without knowing, this is what i'd do.

week 1-12/ cyp 600mg per week
week 1-10/ tren 75-100mg eod.
week 1-5/ dbol 30-40mg ed

start pct week 14.

[fragmaster3sum]

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tren and cyp are both 200mg/100ml and cheers for the advice lads really appreciate it need to get past a dead weight ive been struggling fro some time now

[a-bomb83]

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so the tren is trenbolone enanthate, right? not acetate? not sure how well tren ace would hold at 200mg/ml. just checking. well, in that case if you are going to run tren enanthate, you will want to run a slightly higher dose for longer. 500-600mg (whichever you decide) for 10-12 weeks.

[jamescb77]

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wow 500-600mg of tren enth might be to much most people say that they feel great effects on 300-400 of eenth and these are people that have used 75mg ed with ace. i would start your tren at 300 or 400 a week you can always up it later but with a long ester if you have bad sides you are stuck with them for a while unlike short esters

[fragmaster3sum]

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sorry guys i messed that up wot i meant to say was the deca and cyp was 200mg /100ml and the tren 75mg/100ml also the alltest is 350 mg/100ml the last tren i had was acetate and i was running 450 mg one week and 600 mg the next and so on....so i take it this is the same when it hits my doorstep, so wot dose of tren a would you concider to be most effective

[badasz32]

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im getting a headache trying to read this.

[supasaiyan99]

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sorry guys i messed that up wot i meant to say was the deca and cyp was 200mg /100ml and the tren 75mg/100ml also the alltest is 350 mg/100ml the last tren i had was acetate and i was running 450 mg one week and 600 mg the next and so on....so i take it this is the same when it hits my doorstep, so wot dose of tren a would you concider to be most effective

You still never answered the stat questions. Anyways is that you in your avatar? I don't mean to make fun of you or anything, but from all of the high doses you are taking and comparing it to your size, something does not add up! You need to go back to the basics. Those high amounts of steroids won't get you any bigger. Your diet will determine your size. Why don't you do a simple Test and Deca cycle. Leave the Tren alone for now. Have you had blood work done? You were taking really high amounts of tren in your last cycle so you may want to get some blood work to make sure your body is ok. By the way how long ago was your previous cycle? If you already mentioned how long it was sorry for the repeat!

[fragmaster3sum]

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sorry mate yeah that my pic from about 16 months ago im only a little guy im 5'4" 165lb and i eat and train hard, had all my bloods done recently . was rushed into casualty with a condition not unlike cold turkey the paramedic said...lol but it was a viruse that was goin around was one of the first cases in country,. bloods all came back normal, bp perfect and heart spot on too. only prob with me mate is sleep, ive always been hyper and dont sleep hardly at all, im 39 last cycle was baout 8 weeks ago had finnished and was on clen when i went to casualty.. then a cancer scare dropped about 8 lbs of me threw worry...
my diet is good i have been a real hard gainer , indeed i do not know any one as bad as me in that dep. i couldnt possibly eat any more.. my physic is 18 1/2" neck 45"chest 29"waistand like i say im @165lb i can shed weight like a boxer real quick anad find it impossible to break 12 stone weight been 11'13" and no more... have been opn gear for @6years... biggest was 12 week cycle, over here we favour short cycles.. clomid / pregnyl used them all im at a loss. the shit just doesnt seem to work as well on me fr some reason that a good thing maybe neither does most drugs, or alchohal.. lol ive beat a computer breath test in police station when i was well pissed up

[fragmaster3sum]

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why you getting a head ache? is it because a/ have i not mastered the art of writting english, is it so uncommprehensible? / B/ you havbe not mastered the art of reading perfectly good english lol.... C/ you have lost your glasses.... D/ you suffer from migraines and need a doc? or E/ are you just being crappy because you are on your period???? ha ha ha