Todays the day need some opinions

[mtnmedic]

I'm going to visit my doc in a few hours and let him know im ready to start a cycle. I wanted to wait till I was ready (get bf down diet planning, etc). I mentioned in some previous threads my stats 5'2" 152lbs bf not sure and im HIV+. My reasons are many for aas, I was a solid 156 and dropped to 114 in a matter of weeks seven years ago when I got sick! Scary huh? Anyway, im working on size and strength and I want to get my weight over 160 just in case. I strongly believe it was my physical condition that kept me alive! So after reading thru many good threads and doin some research I decieded to go with Delatestryl and Decca for ten weeks. Being my first cycle what would be a good dosage to start with ? Some of the examples I've seen are in book Built to Survive, however im not sure I've seen conflicting opinions on ramp cycles and how much test and nandrolone a week to see results. I know this is alot but like I said today is the day.

[bigjim33]

what is delatestryl? you might be able to get your doc to prescribe you something also since your in the situation you are in. are you recovering now or is it still bad? you definately have my respect making it through all of that and still going strong and staying dedicated!

[HeHateMe]

well i'd take 300mg test and 300mg deca for ten weeks...human grade pharmaceutical test and nandrolone...im jealous...you may be able to get some BTG oxandrolone as i know they oftentimes prescribe it to HIV+ patients...if that's the case i'd throw some of that in there

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by HeHateMe
im jealous...you may be able to get some BTG oxandrolone as i know they oftentimes prescribe it to HIV+ patients...if that's the case i'd throw some of that in there

i don't think that is a very considerate statement considering his condition bro

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by bigjim33
i don't think that is a very considerate statement considering his condition bro

easy bro, i wasn't making light of his situation...i know ppl that are HIV+...it was a light-hearted joke in reference to the juice he's able to get...

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by HeHateMe
easy bro, i wasn't making light of his situation...i know ppl that are HIV+...it was a light-hearted joke in reference to the juice he's able to get...

i wasn't saying you were....a lot of people are sensitive to things like this, and i don't know how he will react to it, so i was just giving a caution response

[trip]

mtnmedic,

Read the book, plus several others.
HeHateMe's cycle suggestion is simple and complete.

As far as ramping up, I think in your case it has to do with possible reactions to the AS and how your body can handle it.

Ex. Avg. person has good recooperative abilities in general and if the first week he took in 900 mg of AS, 500 test-400 Deca, avg. first cycle and re-acted badly for whatever reason, it should not in general effect his over all health negatively.

I think with the HIV+ person the low dosages ramping up is more a protective measure if you have a severe side effect to the AS.

Overall the book was well written and very informative. I've read approx. 10 books on AS and that one is complete and thorough and extremely well researched and specific to the audience.

Hoped That Helped
Good Luck

PS-Avg. Doc. just writes a script for generic pharmaceutical deca and test, meaning the pharmacy makes their own, fairly common

[mtnmedic]

First of all let me say a big thank you on all the replies !! Well actually im in really good shape considering my hiv. My blood work is progressive T- count 960 and climbing ! and im pretty stout compared to all my bro's which is REALLY cool ! So watcha guys think? Enanthate and nandrolone is fairly simple to start with? I know reactions are different but has anybody done a stack like that ? Any big side affects ? Oh, im not all sensitive bout the hiv thing so it's cool. Like anything else it has it's advantages. lol Again thanks everyone for the help !

[mtnmedic]

Well got an hour drive to Salem, wish me luck and I'll keep ya posted this afternoon on how things went.

[jack hust]

bro what ever cycle you decide on i wish you the best of luck and hope you achive all your gaols i wish you health and good times good luck bro

[HeHateMe]

good luck bro, and keep us informed with whatever route you decide to take

[Gladiator]

Good luck!

[mtnmedic]

Hmmm.... my doc said the Nandrolone might be a problem to get cause of it's reclassification, but we'll see. However I went and had a blood draw (9 vials)! and I will be seeing him again in a month to put somthing together. Now he mentioned HGH..... Now is'nt that expensive? and would I like that better for a first cycle?

[bigjim33]

if you can get a script for gh it would be a lot cheaper i would think than not having a scrip.

[trip]

mntnmedic,

Have no idea what your doctor is talking about. Nandrolone is prescribed everyday for many ailments, and for your particulars, or anyone's for that matter, one of the safest AS's.

Is insurance paying. If so, try the GH, it will not hurt. Otherwise it is very very expensive. You will get your IGF-1 level when you get your blood back. For your age, should be around 300-350. It starts going down after 35.

What did he say about test?

Is he on board with building up your muscle mass to help protect your body from infection?

Hate to say this, and it kind of makes me feel a little squemish to even suggest it, yet, is the doctor SELLING you the HGH? If so, at what price, and who is paying for it.

Again for your conditions. Deca/Test is the standard, tried, and tested therapy. HGH has only proved to be marginally effective in your these cases. Anyway, it only makes a difference if your IGF-1 is low.

Good Luck, You've Worked Hard For It