considering starting

[silentjpro23]

Hello, I'm 23, 6'0", 216, I'm pretty big but would like to get bigger, and am considering starting using, I used 1ad and got a little bigger in my arms and shoulders but not much. I'm curious to know if at this age I should start or not. I can gain about 4-5 more pounds of pure muscle but thats about it, from the workouts I've been doing. I go on and off from heavy, light and high reps. I have not done much research, just on the side effects, but not on what I should actually use. Maybe you could give some names to use what would be the best to start on. If at all. This would be very helpful thank you.

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[bigjim33]

i am very pleased to see you came here very well layed out. you came here knowing something and are looking to learn more, which makes it so much easier, thank you
you can use the search button up top, look for:
test
deca
eq
dbol
clomid
nolva
liquidex

[monstercojones]

also, im sure you could PM any member with questions if you need any more specific help.

[iamdwalrus]

I wouldn't recommend juicing yet. Most of the time when people are stuck in a rut and increase in protein and total caloric intake is enough to bust you out. How long have you been training? If you could list the foods yous eat maybe we can help you.

[jack hust]

dont forget fina, whinny , dbol,eq,anavar and welcome bro you picked the right board to learn from

[trip]

Great attitude. Follow bigjim's direction.
Do alot of searching and learning and then post specific questions. We are all happy to help.

Good Luck

[Juice Authority]

I agree with bigjim33. It looks like you've actually put some thought into this versus coming out and making some ridiculous, uninformed statements. Before people start throwing out their opinions on which AS brand to use I think it would be helpful if you read the following link...

http://www.anabolicextreme.com/anabolic/archives/anex_archives_issue12_newbie.htm

For example, Trenbolone is a very effective steroid for mass building, but many believe it to be too harsh and toxic for a beginner to even consider. Other's might disagree but I try to research these things as thoroughly as possible before I start a cycle. There's always more information to learn.

Here's a great book too..

http://www.steroidlaw.com/

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by Juice Authority

For example, Trenbolone is a very effective steroid for mass building, but many believe it to be too harsh and toxic for a beginner to even consider. Other's might disagree but I try to research these things as thoroughly as possible before I start a cycle. There's always more information to learn.

i disagree with this....if you research thoroughly then fina would be fine for a first cycle, i am a perfect example: prop/fina/winny. however, if you don't do the research in how to combat sides or anything then i wouldn't use it. but he seems lik he is willing to put in the time researching so i would keep it as an option

[Juice Authority]

Originally posted by saturn
i disagree with this....if you research thoroughly then fina would be fine for a first cycle, i am a perfect example: prop/fina/winny. however, if you don't do the research in how to combat sides or anything then i wouldn't use it. but he seems lik he is willing to put in the time researching so i would keep it as an option

Fina is just too harsh for a first cycle. This and daily injections make it a poor choice for a newbie. Someone new to AS will gain very good on an EQ only cycle, especially on 400-600mg /week. Only one injection per week, minimal sides along with decent gains is what you can expect from 600mg EQ/week.

Fina is very androgenic, and if a newbie doesnt know how his body will act under heavy androgens, he might be in for a surprise with Fina.

As far as newbies go, you have to think about "what if..." IMO. Especially with something as 'potentially' harsh as tren. Look, I'm not here as the "ban-tren-voice," but rather to voice a conservative opinion towards newbies and tren. The potential for a very harsh experience is there and any idea or opinion that it isn't is just irresponsible IMO. This last comment IS NOT directed at any opinion in particular.

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by Juice Authority
Fina is just too harsh for a first cycle. This and daily injections make it a poor choice for a newbie. Someone new to AS will gain very good on an EQ only cycle, especially on 400-600mg /week. Only one injection per week, minimal sides along with decent gains is what you can expect from 600mg EQ/week.

Fina is very androgenic, and if a newbie doesnt know how his body will act under heavy androgens, he might be in for a surprise with Fina.

As far as newbies go, you have to think about "what if..." IMO. Especially with something as 'potentially' harsh as tren. Look, I'm not here as the "ban-tren-voice," but rather to voice a conservative opinion towards newbies and tren. The potential for a very harsh experience is there and any idea or opinion that it isn't is just irresponsible IMO. This last comment IS NOT directed at any opinion in particular.

i agree with you here. he wouldn't need it for a first cycle but if he wanted to use it and has done the research there isn't a reason he shouldn't if he wanted to. the usual cycle i recommend for a first is test/deca, test/eq, test/dbol

[rollon]

Listen to these guys they know what they are talking about.......use that search button too. That is how I learned. Welcome!

[34pumped]

welcome bro ...research and ask questions . these guys know what they are talking about.. trust me they helped me big time. good luck!!!!!!

[rado]

welcome kid, how's the training ? ask questions and you'll get plenty of answers.