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**bigjim33** · 02-23-2003, 10:16 PM

i will not get involved in this thread other than this is the response you should get and what you should do:
DO NOT TAKE GEAR! YOU SHOULD WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE AT LEAST 20!

**monstercojones** · 02-23-2003, 10:19 PM

alot of what you said is incorrect, but im not going to get into it because you are way too young. dont touch gear for a few more years, you can grow alot naturally with good diet and training.

**Big420** · 02-23-2003, 10:19 PM

Your right you are to young.

**daddy1122** · 02-23-2003, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by YellowJacket
At least 21. This is my problem....

kids coming on a forum, previously stating they know they're too young, then wanting help. At least you could do is do your own research so you dont get flamed as hard. Everybody wants to do steriods these days huh? Amazing.

Just to let you know i have been doing research for around 8 months and know what is good and what isn't. I know lots of people that do gear and tell me how to do it and what not... however my family is not that tall.. and i haven't grown in like 1 1/2 so i am pretty much done and i am pretty damn experienced in weight lifting (core lift is 1100 lbs and that is with out the roids). So i have done my research.

**YellowJacket** · 02-23-2003, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by daddy1122
Just to let you know i have been doing research for around 8 months and know what is good and what isn't. I know lots of people that do gear and tell me how to do it and what not... however my family is not that tall.. and i haven't grown in like 1 1/2 so i am pretty much done and i am pretty damn experienced in weight lifting (core lift is 1100 lbs and that is with out the roids). So i have done my research.

If you have done your research, then you would know the effects of AAS on your young endocrine system, your underdeveloped organs (liver), effects on hair loss, acne and you would know that 'Im done growing' is one of the more ignorance excuses to use AAS. Also, if you would have done your research you would know that a Deca only cycle is totally worthless and if you would have really dont your research you would know 300mgs of Deca a week is like sucking tit through a sweater, thats not even worth the syringe you fill it with. My advice is get some creatine, flax oil, whey powder and a multi vitamin, you're not even close to being done growing, whether thats what you want to hear or not, thats the truth.

I didnt see your plans for post cycle recovery, since you have done your research, you know deca shuts you down pretty hard and you would also know EQ is much better choice. But I dont have to tell you this, you already knew it.

**daddy1122** · 02-23-2003, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by YellowJacket
If you have done your research, then you would know the effects of AAS on your young endocrine system, your underdeveloped organs (liver), effects on hair loss, acne and you would know that 'Im done growing' is one of the more ignorance excuses to use AAS. Also, if you would have done your research you would know that a Deca only cycle is totally worthless and if you would have really dont your research you would know 300mgs of Deca a week is like sucking tit through a sweater, thats not even worth the syringe you fill it with. My advice is get some creatine, flax oil, whey powder and a multi vitamin, you're not even close to being done growing, whether thats what you want to hear or not, thats the truth.

I didnt see your plans for post cycle recovery, since you have done your research, you know deca shuts you down pretty hard and you would also know EQ is much better choice. But I dont have to tell you this, you already knew it.

I have had many friends that have went on Deca just alone and have seen great results. however the first cycle i am prob not goin to see much, but my 2nd and maybe a 3rd cycle that is where i will see all the gains. and i would start at 300 go up to like 500 then gradually come back down to 300 maybe even 200. and i was thinking about getting on clomid and either HCG or Nolvadex. And about what u said the flax oil, creatine, etc.. i did all of that and yes i did see results, however i pulled and slightly ripped my lat/lower-lombar and i lsot 4 months of training on top of the 20 pounds that i put on, and that is why i am going to juice. (there are other reason that have to do with football but i am not going to get into all that).

And by the way.. i wasn't trying to be a smartass or anything.. i just thought that if i was going to do it that mayeb someone would atleast help me in being safe.

**YellowJacket** · 02-23-2003, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by daddy1122

however the first cycle i am prob not goin to see much, but my 2nd and maybe a 3rd cycle that is where i will see all the gains.

Now see if you would have really done your research, you'd know to take advantage of your 1st cycle as it will mroe than likely yield the most gains if your diet, training and sleep is stellar.

and i would start at 300 go up to like 500 then gradually come back down to 300 maybe even 200.

If you would have really done your research, you'd know theres really no point in tapering.

and i was thinking about getting on clomid and either HCG or Nolvadex.

Probably should do much more research on this.

And about what u said the flax oil, creatine, etc.. i did all of that and yes i did see results, however i pulled and slightly ripped my lat/lower-lombar and i lsot 4 months of training on top of the 20 pounds that i put on, and that is why i am going to juice. (there are other reason that have to do with football but i am not going to get into all that).

So you're using AAS to recover from injury? Think your tendons can keep up with the muscle growth?

Now, no need to lie, its fairly obvious you havent even begun to research,

**daddy1122** · 02-23-2003, 11:04 PM

So you're using AAS to recover from injury? Think your tendons can keep up with the muscle growth?

Now, no need to lie, its fairly obvious you havent even begun to research, or someone should kick the shit out of your enligh teacher for not teaching proper researching techniques. Id hate to see what your dietary recall for any given day looked like. Let this be a lesson, no juice for kids. [/B][/QUOTE]

My muscle is now heald and i have been ok'd to train and if u wanna know my diet for each day u can email me and i will gladly send it to you.. (around 3000-4000 calories a day) and about the going up and down with the deca.. my uncle competed in body building and knows how to do this stuff..

**YellowJacket** · 02-23-2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by daddy1122

My muscle is now heald and i have been ok'd to train and if u wanna know my diet for each day u can email me and i will gladly send it to you.. (around 3000-4000 calories a day) and about the going up and down with the deca.. my uncle competed in body building and knows how to do this stuff..

So whats your basal metabolic rate? And your macronutrient ratio, assuming you're bulking.?

Oh well then in that case....why are you coming here? Get your info. from your uncle...

**hongkongguy** · 02-23-2003, 11:20 PM

did they mention side effects......deca gyno..scary bro.stick around here first my friend.

**bigjim33** · 02-23-2003, 11:46 PM

YJ has brought up the main things you should have researched since you even said you were too young, but you don't seem to know any of that. we have told you not to do it for your own good

**monstercojones** · 02-24-2003, 12:04 AM

be nice

**BullFX** · 02-24-2003, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by basskiller
Gentlemen.. it's fine that you voice your opinion that the guy should wait and or do more research.. But please take it a little easier on him .. We were all newbies once. Instead of *****ing at him.. show him where to look for this info.. Maybe some links.

agree w/ u

daddy , bro u should hang around and read on the training section, learn more about training , different techniques and get ur diet together.... and keep readin on anabolics also and ull be ready in a few yrs from now

**YellowJacket** · 02-24-2003, 12:40 AM

By showing him links, you are condoning the use of anabolic steriods to teenagers, not something I would be personally proud of.

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