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    Bro's I was referred to this page by a bro from a site I frequent often. He said you be able to give me some good help. Here we go

    This is what I have:
    4000mg QV test/prop
    and 20 50mg bottles of winny (zambons)

    What my plan is:

    Test/prop (QV) 500mg / week. Inject 100mg Mon, Tues, Wens, Fri, Sat. off Thrus and Sun. (day 1 to 54)

    Winny (zambons) 25 mg ED starting days 17-57. (injected)

    Clomid start day 58 300mg day 1, 2-11 100mg 12-21 50mg.

    i'm runnig this w my partner who is doing a little more but he has previous experience.

    6'0 208lbs and about 18-20% BF

    looking to cut up and looking to see if this cycle is good or if you guys may have better idea's. Thanks and glad to be a new member.

  • #2
    I would run the winny at 50mgs ed. But thats just me!!

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    • #3
      maybe add some tren.

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      • #4
        When do you plan on starting?

        If it were me I'd wait. Maybe run a Clen/NYC or ECA action first.
        No flame bro but 18%-20%b/f is kinda high.

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        • #5
          Re: My first cycle plan your thoughts

          Originally posted by Packingtoy
          Bro's I was referred to this page by a bro from a site I frequent often. He said you be able to give me some good help. Here we go

          This is what I have:
          4000mg QV test/prop
          and 20 50mg bottles of winny (zambons)

          What my plan is:

          Test/prop (QV) 500mg / week. Inject 100mg Mon, Tues, Wens, Fri, Sat. off Thrus and Sun. (day 1 to 54)

          Winny (zambons) 25 mg ED starting days 17-57. (injected)

          Clomid start day 58 300mg day 1, 2-11 100mg 12-21 50mg.

          i'm runnig this w my partner who is doing a little more but he has previous experience.

          6'0 208lbs and about 18-20% BF

          looking to cut up and looking to see if this cycle is good or if you guys may have better idea's. Thanks and glad to be a new member.



          why inject ED? Just pick 2 days out of the week kid. no need to inject ED. Go like Tues/Fri-or Mon/Thursd, no need for everyday. Besides, give your glutes a rest, unless your going crazy and shooting all kind of places. As fas as the Clomid goes, don't do any so can't help you there. Winny, I would go 50 ED. you seem to have much BF, that you can cut some of it back.

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          • #6
            i agree with big 420, you'll be alot happier if you shed some bf first. winstrol isnt a fat-burner by any means.
            "i swear you're about as subtle as a brick in the small of my back..."

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            • #7
              i would see if you can get more winny and do 50mg/day....if not 500mg/wk of prop and 25mg/eod of winny will still yield nice results. if possible iwould try to get to 15%bf before you start. this can be done in a month easily with low carbs, clean diet, and moderate cardio

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              • #8
                Re: Re: My first cycle plan your thoughts

                Originally posted by rado
                why inject ED? Just pick 2 days out of the week kid. no need to inject ED. Go like Tues/Fri-or Mon/Thursd, no need for everyday. Besides, give your glutes a rest, unless your going crazy and shooting all kind of places. As fas as the Clomid goes, don't do any so can't help you there. Winny, I would go 50 ED. you seem to have much BF, that you can cut some of it back.
                rado, he is using prop/winny...they need to be taken ed or eod

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                • #9
                  rado- prop needs to be shot ED or EOD at the least to keep blood levels constant.
                  "i swear you're about as subtle as a brick in the small of my back..."

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                  • #10
                    i see nothing wrong with starting a cycle like that, even at 18%, alot of guys on here who think they are 13 or 14% are actually closer to 18%. Anyone ever heard of a cutting cycle? Just run prop eod, along with 50mg winny eod. You really dont have to run it ed. It is prefered, but in know many who ran 50mg eod, winny only, and gained good solid mass while leaning up. I like it, prop does not make me hold a lot of water, and winny doesnt aromatize, you have a good cutter laid out.

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                    • #11
                      what are you practicing for acupuncture, with all those injections youre gonna looke like a piece of swiss cheese, just get some sustanon and run 500 mgs for 10 weeks i put on a good 25 pounds my 1st sustanon cycle.
                      "A THUG CHANGES, LOVE CHANGES AND BEST FRIENDS BECOME STRANGERS " ~ NAS~

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                      • #12
                        The thing is this is what i have and all i can deal with b/c I can't afford anything else. Also the 1/2 life of winny is 24-36 hours so most of it is going to be a waste, that's why i chose 25mg everday.

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                        • #13
                          i think you will be happy with the prop eod and the winny at 25mg/day, especially since you have zambons

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                          • #14
                            How about the 25mg winny everyday and run the prop 75mg Mon-Sat and then a 1/2 cc on Sun. My bro has cycled before so injections are gluts and delts, so I won't be squatting while trying crap all the time.

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                            • #15
                              running the prop ED asuming it will keep my blood levels constant.

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