Deca crash, tapering, etc...

[mikeco]

Okay, I know you vets get sick of post-cycle questions, but I'm really concerned about keeping my gains. I'm on my second cycle, which consists of 400mg Deca and 500mg Sust per week. I'm planning on using 1000iu HCG ed for the last 2 weeks of my cycle and then starting clomid 3 weeks after the last injection, but I've read so many posts/articles about deca-crashes.
The following paragraph was taken from...

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp

"This may also explain the reason individuals often find post-deca recovery more difficult, as the progesterone presence is untouched by the Clomid. We know that Clomid and Nolvadex (being very similar chemically) are both ineffective with regard to reducing progesterone related gyno, so it is reasonable to assume that Clomid has little effect against progesterone levels."

Since HCG and Clomid aren't going to help me much with the Deca, should I taper off the Deca while continuing the 500mg of Sust????
Sorry for the long post, but thanks for any advice.

[Iceburg]

Yes HCG and Clomid will help you post-cycle. . It's saying that HCG and clomid won't help with the type of gyno that deca causes... progesterone induced gyno.. but I don't see why they are saying it won't help with recovery.

Those two aren't being used to effect progesterone levels.... they are being used to stimulate your HTPA..... and they will.

[rangerslead]

Hey bro I have been using Bromo with my Deca but i think it has hindered my gains a lot but Bromo will counter deca gyno (progestorone). i take 1.25 twice a day while on cycle with deca in it.

[superchicken]

in case this isnt what yopu meant, you should use hcg the last 2 wks before clomid, not the last 2 wks while inj gear.

doesnt matter if theres still prog inhibiting you, hcg will mimic lh and it will get the nads going, then finish up with clomid, and preferably add in some ldex or letro while on hcg and also during clomid.

also a very very good idea to have nolva on hand during hcg, or if nothing else some extra clomid to sub for nolva. ldex alone will not always cut it for hcg, no matter how much you take.

[abstrack]

rangerslead, how much bromo did you order for your cycle and how long is your cycle. when did you start taking the bromo? from day one injection or 4-5 weeks into it when the deca kicks in?? just curious because i will be starting a cycle soon with deca in it

[NecroPhreak]

Re: Deca crash, tapering, etc...

Originally posted by mikeco

Since HCG and Clomid aren't going to help me much with the Deca, should I taper off the Deca while continuing the 500mg of Sust???

I get what you meant: YES.

[jack hust]

yea i would taper and keep the sust up a while after deca crashes suck i speak from many experiances