What effects do anabolic steroids have on the heart?

[prot]

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What effects do anabolic steroids have on the heart?




Anabolic steroids cause enlargement of the heart in humans and
test animals. These are the same changes in heart
muscle that occur in chronic heart failure. For these
reasons, when a young athlete experiences sudden death the body is
often evaluated for steroid abuse. In one case report,
a 21-year-old steroid abuser collapsed and died during a
workout. The autopsy revealed an enlarged heart with
areas of dead heart-muscle tissue. Medical authorities speculated
that steroid abuse caused his heart muscle cells to grow faster
than the blood vessel supply. This created an area of heart tissue
with poor blood flow, leading to death of the new cells and a fatal
heart attack.

I have read contradictory info and think you should not just put this out without citing references. For instance heavy training causes left ventricular hypertrophy and NOTsteroids. I have never seen a study equating heart failure symptoms with steroid usage.

[prot]

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It says they "speculated" about steroids but the heart muscle is not like skeletal muscle and its more likely to be rec drugs such as cocaine that could have caused the heart damage....or even ephedrine.

[FUZO]

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I have read contradictory info and think you should not just put this out without citing references. For instance heavy training causes left ventricular hypertrophy and NOTsteroids. I have never seen a study equating heart failure symptoms with steroid usage.

REFERENCES 1. Creagh TM, Rubin A, Evans DJ. Hepatic tumours induced by anabolic steroids in an athlete. J Clin Pathol 1988;41:441-3. 2. Yesalis CE, Wright JE, Bahrke MS. Epidemiological and policy issues in the measurement of the long term health effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids. Sports Medicine 1989 Sep;8(3):129-38. 3. Ferenchick GS. Association of steroid abuse with cardiomyopathy in athletes. American Journal Of Medicine 1991 Nov;91(5):562. 4. Luke JL, Farb A, Virmani R, Sample RHB. Sudden cardiac death during exercise in a weight lifter using anabolic androgenic steroids - pathological and toxicological findings. Journal Of Forensic Sciences 1990 Nov;35(6):1441-7. by Trent Tschirgi, R. Ph. (c) 1992 University of Maryland Office of Substance Abuse Studies. All Rights Reserved.

[FUZO]

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It says they "speculated" about steroids but the heart muscle is not like skeletal muscle and its more likely to be rec drugs such as cocaine that could have caused the heart damage....or even ephedrine.

WHAT LINE OF WORK ARE YOU IN

[prot]

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REFERENCES 1. Creagh TM, Rubin A, Evans DJ. Hepatic tumours induced by anabolic steroids in an athlete. J Clin Pathol 1988;41:441-3. 2. Yesalis CE, Wright JE, Bahrke MS. Epidemiological and policy issues in the measurement of the long term health effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids. Sports Medicine 1989 Sep;8(3):129-38. 3. Ferenchick GS. Association of steroid abuse with cardiomyopathy in athletes. American Journal Of Medicine 1991 Nov;91(5):562. 4. Luke JL, Farb A, Virmani R, Sample RHB. Sudden cardiac death during exercise in a weight lifter using anabolic androgenic steroids - pathological and toxicological findings. Journal Of Forensic Sciences 1990 Nov;35(6):1441-7. by Trent Tschirgi, R. Ph. (c) 1992 University of Maryland Office of Substance Abuse Studies. All Rights Reserved.

Hepatic tumors are liver tumors and have nothing to do with the heart..your first reference...the second citation is an older "opinion piece" and is not a scientific study, and the the last "study" is an autopsy report on ONE individual from over 13 years ago. None of those references could possibly show what you have stated in your first statement in this thread regarding heart damage and anabolic steroid usage. Much more recent studies have shown that left ventricular hypertrophy(enlarged heart) was found in trained athletes who were users or non users. Blood pressure issues have to be monitored but lots of people who do not use steroids have high blood pressure.

[FUZO]

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PROT THESE ARENT MY FACTS AND THOSE ARE THE REFERENCES THAT CAME WITH THE ARTICLE.AND ARE YOU A EXPERT ON THIS TYPE OF INFO

[mick-G]

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I have to agree with Prot. Ive been doing alot of research and have not found any conclusive evidence that could correlate anabolic steriod use to enlarged heart or sudden death. Most of the subjects were found to have had coranary problems before use. I have found some articles on cocaine use and ventricular hypertrophy. Fuzo, i found your article at anabolicsmall.com.

[FUZO]

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I have to agree with Prot. Ive been doing alot of research and have not found any conclusive evidence that could correlate anabolic steriod use to enlarged heart or sudden death. Most of the subjects were found to have had coranary problems before use. I have found some articles on cocaine use and ventricular hypertrophy. Fuzo, i found your article at anabolicsmall.com.

AND THATS WHERE I GOT THE ARTICLE AT.

[prot]

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The article is an outdated piece of propaganda ..I mean no disrespect to you Fuzo because the article seems alarming..Its just not scientific and its based on old material. There are no experts on long term steroid usage but studies on HRT show NO adverse cardiac effects..and many advantageous lifestyle changes. Newer studies indicate erectile dysfunction is a significant indicator of heart disease and that condition is associated with LOW testosterone.

I only differ with you because this article is biased. The vast majority of young steroid users may die of heart disease but it will not be caused by steroid usage itself. Most people die of heart disease or cancer and their deaths are not attributable to steroid usage. This article is a "scare" article put out to keep people from using these "dangerous drugs". I have seen news reports that thousands of physicians are self medicating with testosterone as they age. What do they know?

[FUZO]

Re: What effects do anabolic steroids have on the heart?

The article is an outdated piece of propaganda ..I mean no disrespect to you Fuzo because the article seems alarming..Its just not scientific and its based on old material. There are no experts on long term steroid usage but studies on HRT show NO adverse cardiac effects..and many advantageous lifestyle changes. Newer studies indicate erectile dysfunction is a significant indicator of heart disease and that condition is associated with LOW testosterone.

I only differ with you because this article is biased. The vast majority of young steroid users may die of heart disease but it will not be caused by steroid usage itself. Most people die of heart disease or cancer and their deaths are not attributable to steroid usage. This article is a "scare" article put out to keep people from using these "dangerous drugs". I have seen news reports that thousands of physicians are self medicating with testosterone as they age. What do they know?

IF I CAME OFF WRONG SORRY I JUST SEARC FOR ARTICLES AND FOUND THIS ONE.

[crombie09]

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I wonder if it happens when people take AAS and dont workout as much or enough for whatever reason...........

[space mountain]

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this is a good read and great responses with out bull shit flaming good discussions like this is what we need !