Another puffy nipple question

[slimm]

It's been 2 1/2 yrs since my last cycle of test-e and deca. I gained some weight, some of it being from fat during and after the cycle. I still have a puffy nipple and both are a bit sensitive at times. I'm not on a cycle right now. The only thing I have been taking is regular supps such as a multi-v and protein and creatine.

There is no lump that I can feel so I don't think it is full-blown gyno. I'm wanting to know if there is something I can take such as nolva or liquidex now while not on cycle that will help get rid of the puffinness.

[space mountain]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

nolvadex

[lxorl]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

its debated.... but some think a long term nolva treatment will help..

say 60mg for a two weeks then cut it back to 20mg for a couple months.

like i said its debated... some claim it has worked wonders for them, others not so much.

[Phreak]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

i have the beginnings of unilateral gyno on my left pec. (or at least i did)

a very small lump beneath the nipple, some fatty tissue, and recently some itchiness.

i started nolvadex at 25mg/day during the last two weeks of my cycle and have now continued it into PCT. i guess it has almost been 3 weeks at this point. the lump/itchiness are completely gone, and the fatty tissue has been greatly reduced, almost to nothing.

i would give nolvadex a shot. it's pretty benign, so you don't have to worry about side effects.

[jipped genes]

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i used nolva and it worked well for me. after the swelling subsided i used aroma to prevent another flare up and it worked well too.

[TRAM]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

SLIMM 2-1/2 YRS. SINCE LAST CYCLE, YOU HAVE NO LUMP, ARE YOU SURE YOUR NIPS JUST AREN'T RUBBING ON A DETAIL ON YOUR SHIRT TO MAKE THEM SENSITIVE? NOLVA SHOULD FIX IT IF ALL YOU HAVE IS A LITTLE SORENESS OF MAYBE IT'S NATURAL FOR YOU, I'VE HAD A LUMP BEHIND MY NIP FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, LONG BEFORE ANY CYCLES CAME AROUND.

[chicken hawk]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

I think reducing overall body fat percentage will help too...

[NATE]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

I think reducing overall body fat percentage will help too...

wouldn't that be one of the last places you would lose fatty tissue without aid?

[slimm]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

Thanks for the responses guys.

I'm debating on whether to worry about it now or after I take my next cycle here next month. There is no real lump, just puffiness, especially when you look at it from the side and it bothers the hell out of me. That's one of the reasons I am going to run both nolva and liquidex throughout my next cycle of sust/deca/dbol.

[Phreak]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

hey slimm,

if you run liquidex there will be no reason to run the nolva, as the liquidex will inhibit aromatization completely. there will be no need to block the estrogen receptors as there will be no estrogen, or such a small amount that it's effects will be negligible.

if there is no lump or itchiness i would wait until after the cycle to run the nolvadex.

also meant to say, if the fatty tissue really bothers you that much, try dieting down... an overall reduction in bodyfat will help alot.

[slimm]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

hey slimm,

if you run liquidex there will be no reason to run the nolva, as the liquidex will inhibit aromatization completely. there will be no need to block the estrogen receptors as there will be no estrogen, or such a small amount that it's effects will be negligible.

if there is no lump or itchiness i would wait until after the cycle to run the nolvadex.

also meant to say, if the fatty tissue really bothers you that much, try dieting down... an overall reduction in bodyfat will help alot.

Hmmm, I've read up quite a bit and understood to take liquidex at around .25-.50 mg's/day and nolvadex at around 20 mg's/day. Is this not right? What you say actually makes sense, but I thought they both worked a little different in blocking the estrogen receptors. I was also planning on running hcg throuhgout the cycle (that's another thread though). Would that make a difference?

[Phreak]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

well, liquidex is an aromatase inhibitor... so it blocks the conversion all together. so, if you take it throughout the cycle, then in theory there should be no estrogen present to bind to your receptors. but liquidex itself does not bind to estrogen receptors.

nolvadex on the other hand binds to the receptor sites so the estrogen in the system doesn't have a chance to bind and exert it's effects.

hcg will serve to maintain testicular function throughout the cycle. if you are going to do this then liquidex will come in expecially handy when it comes to inhibiting the aromatization that comes along with HCG.

the flip side to all this is that you really need some estrogen in your system when "on", for a whole host of reasons... anabolism not being the least of which.

running either liquidex or nolvadex throughout your cycle will definitely lessen your gains, but if gyno is a big concern then this is just part of the deal.

either way, i would still run the liquidex while you are on and save the nolva for PCT.

[JsJs24]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

A friend of mine has the same problem and his brother is a medical doctor with AAS knowledge. His brother said surgery is the only cure, but he has a small lump in his. In your case it sounds like you are perhaps merely sensitive to gyno problems. I would definately run nolv at 20mg ed throughout the cycle and have plenty on hand in case. However, if it is a mild case of gyno from 2 yrs ago then I do not think you can reverse it. At least that's what I hear but never had it personally.

[mick-G]

Re: Another puffy nipple question

I have been hearing the best approch is a combination of ldex or aroma along with the nolva.

[Phreak]

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I have been hearing the best approch is a combination of ldex or aroma along with the nolva.

is this solely for prevention, or if you already have gyno and are looking to manage/prevent new growth while cycling?

it would seem to me that the aromatase inhibitor would prevent estrogen from even being present in the first place... so i'm wondering why you would need to block the receptor sites at all...

unless you already had a problem... then i could see the use of nolva for reduction of the tissue.

clue me in here