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Most ppl stop the Equipoise one wk prior to their test, because EQ's half life is 16.5days and Enathate is 10.5 days. I stop them at the same time and never had a prob, but if you want to make sure it has cleared your system at the same time as the test, stop the EQ after wk 15. Many ppl also take the Winstrol all the way to the end of cycle up to pct. So it would work like starting the Zambons at wk 15 thru wk 18 and starting pct the next day or at wk 19, as the half life of Winstrol IM is 1 day as opposed to 9hrs for the oral. Other than that the cycle looks solid.
ok here it is finalized unless some one tells me no ! lol
week 1 to 16 test e 750 mg week (schering)
week 1 to 16 eq 500 mg week (pro-pharma)
week 1 to 5 dbol 40 mg daily (NAPS)
week 1 to 8 deca 400mg week (norma)
week 12 to 16 winny 50mg daily (zambon)
nolvadex daily at 20mg
b-12 also
Seems like there has been quite a evolution in idea's here. You guys are all talking about running large amounts of test., however, I dont know if there is correlation between amounts of test. and increase risks of hypertension, hyperlipidemia, testicular cancer, psychological manifestations, ect. I did find one study showing positive results with men that are in andropause or suffering from hypogonadism, however, these results assume the patient to already have low serum levels.
Summary:Androgen replacement therapy in hypogonadal men has many potential benefits: improved sexual function, an enhanced sense of well-being, increased lean body mass, decreased body fat, and increased bone density. However, it also carries potential risks, including the possibility of stimulating the growth of an occult prostate cancer. The benefits of androgen therapy outweigh the risks in men with classic hypogonadism.
Now there have been numberous studies indicating increased "risk" of prostate hyperplasia . Moreover, there have been numberous studies indicating steroid withdrawl syndrome (SWS) in cushings patients. However, this is basically irrevalent because the study focused on glucocorticoid therapy. If you look to the research your more likely to find negative veiw points, however, there are a large number of positive bias's emerging. This could be due to a number of reasons including current political veiws. Most negative view points follow the same format which is as follows:
"Side-effects of anabolic steroids include cardiomyopathy, atherosclerosis, hypercoagulopathy, hepatic dysfunction, and psychiatric and behavioural disturbances. It is therefore appropriate that the anaesthetist be familiar with the abuse of anabolic steroids, their potential adverse effects, and the peri-operative risk associated with the use of these drugs."3
I really believe that in summary bodybuilders of today should be studied because studies where human subjects consume such large quantities of steroids just wont and cant exist due to legislation and laws. I dont believe the scientific community really understands the true long term benifits of extreme steroid use/abuse. There is one study I did find that I think you should all look at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...280&query_hl=3
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Referrences:
Male hypogonadism : an update on diagnosis and treatment
Vanishing bile duct syndrome and inflammatory pseudotumor associated with a case of anabolic steroid abuse
Steroid withdrawal syndrome after successful treatment of Cushing's syndrome: a reminder.
Eur J Endocrinol. 2005 Aug;153(2):207-10.
Anabolic steroid abuse: physiological and anaesthetic considerations.
Anaesthesia. 2005 Jul;60(7):685-92.
Hepatocellular adenomas associated with anabolic androgenic steroid abuse in bodybuilders: a report of two cases and a review of the literature.
Br J Sports Med. 2005 May;39(5):e27. Review.
"Better Things for Better Living...Through Chemistry." -DuPont
"...Indeed, there comes a time in every little slugger’s life when he's faced with the difficult decision of whether to shoot a needle into his butt and turn himself into the Incredible Hulk...or to take the higher road and pursue a career as a coal miner, but at least be able to have a few children before dying of black lung disease."
Psychological complications must be noted as well. I know personally that when I weighed 140 lbs. I was alot different mentally then I am now at 200 lbs. Here is a reference to the psycosomatics of anabolic steroid use:
The authors review the literature from human and animal studies on the neurochemical and pathological psychiatric effects of supraphysiological doses of anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS) and discuss the AAS use and abuse patterns, additional drug use patterns, and personality and behavioral charact …
Fuzo posted this just a little bit ago and it basically echos this post:
"Better Things for Better Living...Through Chemistry." -DuPont
"...Indeed, there comes a time in every little slugger’s life when he's faced with the difficult decision of whether to shoot a needle into his butt and turn himself into the Incredible Hulk...or to take the higher road and pursue a career as a coal miner, but at least be able to have a few children before dying of black lung disease."
Oh whoops... Damn it. Well if your really interested PM me and Ill see what I can do. Sorry about that.
"Better Things for Better Living...Through Chemistry." -DuPont
"...Indeed, there comes a time in every little slugger’s life when he's faced with the difficult decision of whether to shoot a needle into his butt and turn himself into the Incredible Hulk...or to take the higher road and pursue a career as a coal miner, but at least be able to have a few children before dying of black lung disease."
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