clomid

[TKO]

Originally posted by JohnnyB
If you stop them both at the same time you'd have to wait for the long acting ester to clear your system. Now if you run the short acting ester or AAS passed the time it takes for the long acting ester to clear the system, then you'd wait the time it takes for the shorter acting ester or AAS to clear the system. If you stop the shorter acting ester or AAS before you stop the longer acting ester, then you'd just wait for the long ester to clear the system.

Don't forget to run your clomid for 4 weeks with deca, since deca is a little harder on your HPTA.

JohnnyB

I will stop both at the same time, so therefore I will have to start the clomid 3 weeks later....wont that mean I will lose gains given by the dbol ?

[JohnnyB]

Some to most of the gains from d-bol is water, the water retention give you strength, which helps jump start your cycle, so to speak. Deca has water retention with it also, so the weight you lose will be water if you lose any before colmid.

Keep your protein up and make sure you adjust your diet to maintain those gains and with any cycle if you stop gaining wieght, it's because you need to up your calories.

Here's why, if you up your manitinace calories when you start your cycle your body well gain what it can from the extra calories. So inorder to keep the gains coming you need to up the calories again.

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

Originally posted by bigjim33
that's what the women say

you to I thought it was only me

JohnnyB

[34pumped]

good post

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by JohnnyB
you to I thought it was only me

JohnnyB

someone has to do it

[JohnnyB]

Originally posted by bigjim33
someone has to do it

[notatrase]

I have completely stopped using clomid, and instead use only nolvadex. I experience too many sides from clomid.

[JohnnyB]

Posted by LAWNSAVER at Steroidology

Fertil Steril 2003 Jan;79(1):203-5 Related Articles, Links


Use of clomiphene citrate to reverse premature andropause secondary to steroid abuse.

Tan RS, Vasudevan D.

Department of Family and Community Medicine, University of Texas Health Sciences Center, Houston, Texas 77030, USA. robert.s.tan@uth.tmc.edu

OBJECTIVE: To report a case of symptomatic hypogonadism induced by the abuse of multiple steroid preparations that was subsequently reversed by clomiphene.

DESIGN: Case report.

SETTING: University-affiliated andrology practice within family practice clinic.

PATIENT(S): A 30-year-old male.

INTERVENTION(S): Clomiphene citrate, 100-mg challenge for 5 days, followed by treatment at same dose for 2 months.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S): Clinical symptoms, androgen decline in aging male questionnaire, total T, FSH, LH.

RESULT(S): Reversal of symptoms, normalization of T levels with LH surge, restoration of pituitary-gonadal axis.

CONCLUSION(S): Clomiphene citrate is used typically in helping to restore fertility in females. This represents the first case report of the successful use of clomiphene to restore T levels and the pituitary-gonadal axis in a male patient. The axis was previously shut off with multiple anabolic steroid abuse.

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

Originally posted by notatrase
I have completely stopped using clomid, and instead use only nolvadex. I experience too many sides from clomid.

At what dose and for how long?

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

I get emotional.

JohnnyB

[darmadoc]

if you were to run the clomid for 4 weeks after deca, what doses would you recomend?

[JohnnyB]

I'd keep the last week at 50mg.

JohnnyB

[cbr929]

thanks guys for the info