Why not Deca and EQ...

[Merc]

I am just wondering why it is suggested that you do not take both eq and deca? Everyone always says you should not and I am just wondering why.

THanks,
Merc

[solidground]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

i think the arguement is that they are too much alike but i disagree- they make a good combination

[T-Man007]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

They're not that similar in results but I think it has something to do with the sides of deca and that test is a better partner to deca to combat those sides. That's what I have come to understand but I'm sure someone who has more experience with deca will shed some light on the subject.

[Phreak]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

maybe too much prolactin buildup...

[BIGMOFO]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

maybe too much prolactin buildup...

eq should not do that!

[chaos]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

there is no prolactin issue with EQ. they make a good combo IMO. both increase collogen synthisis, and keep joints healthy. i love them together.

[Phreak]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

sorry guys, i had meant to put a question mark after my last comment... i could have sworn i read somewhere that EQ in doses above 500mg/wk would cause prolactin buildup. but i always thought that was only the case with progesterone derivatives?

EQ isn't a progesterone derivative is it?

[mick-G]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

Norandrolone is a 19-nor, where EQ is a derivitive of test and deca and EQ are not the same or have the same effect. Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. Deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density.
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use.

Half lives: Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days

[geesler]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

Norandrolone is a 19-nor, where EQ is a derivitive of test and deca and EQ are not the same or have the same effect. Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. Deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density.
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use.

Half lives: Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days

[firstenrgy]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use.
Half lives: Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days

??? I thought the half-life of Deca was 14 days and EQ 5 days? Unless its a UG that is adding an esther to it???

[mick-G]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

^Nope, both are around the same half life. Even though both are different in chemical comp ( deca being 19 nor and eq a testosterone derivative), they work syrgenically well together.

[badasz32]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

i have heard of people using both and getting great results

[mick-G]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

Yes, same here. I heard that the deca will as usual give you the mass, but then by using the eq, you will also get the hardness and vascularity as well, and you will keep more of your gains, unlike using deca alone. Not to mention the strength and water to help the joints.

[Phreak]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

good stuff... thanks guys

[GetBig24]

Re: Why not Deca and EQ...

So, test, deca, and eq and maybe through in some dbol would be a good mix?