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  • #16
    Re: Being off AS

    Im off.

    after being on 20 weeks. but i love being on and making gains. i do only 1 cycle per year in my off season. i have done 2. always low dosage and at most 2 compounds. i like to go on because i gain alot of strength and size. i can keep a lot of what i gain. everything has to be in check though. when i go off, and work natty i can get to or above the strength i wan while on. so it is possible to make gains natty, they are just much slower.
    Badasz1@Hushmail.com

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    • #17
      Re: Being off AS

      skar you didn`t understand me.. most people don`t have patience.. so quality gains that I would gain naturaly would take anyone in about one full year.. when on AAS in some weeks..so compare a year to lets say 12 wks ?? we would all starve to death if farmers waited so their animals would grow naturaly. Look what they do to cows and chickens.. they grow overnight.. and it would take months to develop them naturaly.

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      • #18
        Re: Being off AS

        i see what ure saying.. yeah u're right in that sense. i thought u said u couldnt gain well naturally . i know thats false. there are some natty dudes that look better than gear dudes.


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        • #19
          Re: Being off AS

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          Last edited by space mountain; 09-21-2005, 06:44 AM.
          If bigger is better then im better than ever !

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          • #20
            Re: Being off AS

            I TRIED AND TRIED AND TRIED FOR YRS. never got above 165!!! i ate better than perfect sleep around 8 to 9 hrs a day ! finally i said the hell with it. got on the boards actually this was my first one back then lol got educated got on gear and boom got over 205 in yr! now im off for couple months now and still aound 195. will i get on again? damn right ! i want to get my ultimate goal of 225 under 10 % bf.
            If bigger is better then im better than ever !

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            • #21
              Re: Being off AS

              Originally posted by space mountain
              damn right ! i want to get my ultimate goal of 225 under 10 % bf.
              my ultimate goal is at 250 under 10.... and when i hit 250 , gonna be 275, well I WANT TO TAKE MY BODY TO THE MAXIMUN GROWTH

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              • #22
                Re: Being off AS

                I'm going to respond to those who said smart ass remarks; 1st off I never once said to stay off AS, that's your problem not mine. On the other hand I've never done ALL these cycles like someone said above, so watch what you say.

                On the other hand, I have been off since April of '04 and have kept just about all my gains; those my avatat look any different

                Obviously those who want to compete, then stay on(mike)....I think some of you need to read my 1st post before acting like children. I simply asked a valid question as to why most of you are still on when you don't even compete

                I simply state that I'm able to keep MOST(not all) of my gains since I've been off. AND DON'T even say that you can't gain SOME muscle without the use of AS; that's BS !

                Like I said, this was a question(valid one) and some of you got on the deffensive, no surprise to me


                I could give a rats ass if you never want to come off, just want to know why ? I never said Why do AS, I've done it myself.

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                • #23
                  Re: Being off AS

                  Originally posted by bowbow
                  Why am I on? Simple, I want to get bigger. Why did you do it?? You make it sound like there's no reason to ever have taken them.
                  And no you haven't remotely kept all you gains rado. I remember ready in the past that you've done umpteen million cycles and say you keep all your gains if so you'd be about 400 pounds.
                  I'm not remotely dependent on them if so my wife would dump me for sure.lol
                  Im naturally skinny, my body wants to be around 175 pounds, right now i'm 203. When I stop it doesn't matter how spot on my pct is or my diet and training is the pounds almost immediatly want to start coming off. So yes I have been on much more than off but I'm 35 years old and this is what I want to do with myself right now. I've had my children so I'm not concerned with messing up sperm count or production.
                  I'm very healthy, I do regular visits to the doc and get blood work done for peace of mind.
                  So ther you have it.

                  I've done
                  umpteen million cycles
                  huh? Didn't know you knew that well


                  And if this is what YOU want to do, so be it. I simply asked WHY?!?!?!?! and some of act like kids.....Some of you just can't reply back like O2 said and act like adults....figure...lol....
                  Last edited by Rado; 09-21-2005, 09:48 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Being off AS

                    lol at radooooo

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                    • #25
                      Re: Being off AS

                      Originally posted by BIG_MIKE1979
                      lol at radooooo
                      I ask a simple quesiton and some of you cry like little girls as to thinking I'm pointing at you(as in people) out for using AS


                      Funny how only a couple of them answered it well......

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                      • #26
                        Re: Being off AS

                        Originally posted by Rado
                        I ask a simple quesiton and some of you cry like little girls as to thinking I'm pointing at you(as in people) out for using AS


                        Funny how only a couple of them answered it well......
                        well i did answered well but i said u can stay all year long and i know i was out of ur question..u are too mrs sensitive

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                        • #27
                          Re: Being off AS

                          i have been off for a bit..... I only do small cycles almost like a novice would use creatine... just a little something extra for a boost. im not looking for masive size. i have started to lose interest in using AAS... no real point for me now, im pretty close to where i would want to be...... mostly i need to diet down and cut a little more, but that is easier said than done with out a real reason to, other than wanting to look cut. im not an actor, model, im married..... so its hard to be on a tight diet just to look great... i already look better than 95% of the fat american slobs out there.
                          Last edited by lxorl; 09-21-2005, 10:10 AM.
                          I'm Just an old chunk of Coal, But I'm gonna be a DIAMOND some day.





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                          • #28
                            Re: Being off AS

                            Originally posted by lxorl
                            i have been off for a bit..... I only do small cycles almost like a novice would use creatine... just a little something extra for a boost. im not looking for masive size. i have started to lose interest in using AAS... no real point for me now, im pretty close to where i would want to be...... mostly i need to diet down and cut a little more, but that is easier said than done with out a real reason to, other than wanting to look cut. im not an actor, model, im married..... so its hard to be on a tight diet just to look great... i already look better than 95% of the fat american slobs out there.
                            lol

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                            • #29
                              Re: Being off AS

                              Originally posted by BIG_MIKE1979
                              OK IN ORDER TO BE SAFE AND NO PROBS IN THE FUTURE, U HAVE TO HAVE A DOCT MONITORING UR ASS WITH NO DOUBT NO simply i can't afford it:

                              But you can afford steroids, GH or Igf


                              I'm sorry mikey(and I like you bro) but don't tell me you can't afford it; then stay off AS.

                              If you can afford to stay on ALL YEAR, then you should be able to afford to get checked up. Kind of like buying a Porsche; if you can afford to buy it, then you better be able to maintain it

                              Now the reason I don't stay on, is because I like the way I look right now, no reason to stay on all year(don't compete) and even if I did compete, you don't have to stay on all year to do so.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Being off AS

                                Originally posted by Rado
                                But you can afford steroids, GH or Igf


                                I'm sorry mikey(and I like you bro) but don't tell me you can't afford it; then stay off AS.

                                If you can afford to stay on ALL YEAR, then you should be able to afford to get checked up. Kind of like buying a Porsche; if you can afford to buy it, then you better be able to maintain it

                                Now the reason I don't stay on, is because I like the way I look right now, no reason to stay on all year(don't compete) and even if I did compete, you don't have to stay on all year to do so.
                                i can em cheap when i can that is why i canafford..but doc is too much money and most insurcan won't cover it

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