HELP! Found some OLD juice

[doberguy]

I've been out of the scene for quite some time. Recently we decided to move to a different house. to make a long story short, I came across some of my "stuff" from long ago. it's about 10-12 years old.

My question is if it is still good/safe to use or what. Please give me some feedback-

Heres what I found:

Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg (Exp-1-94)
Ominadren 250mg (ampules-no Exp) got in 95
Testoprim-D (ampules -no Exp) got in 96
finaplix-h 10 ml (exp-SEP 99) Distributed by Hoechst-Roussel Agri-Vet Company Somerville, NJ (always questioned if this was a fake)
Winstrol Depot-1ml Stanzolol 50mg (Zanmbon, S.A. Lote: J021 CAD: 05/00) ampules

I heard that it will weaken over time, but that's it.

Again any help would be appreciated.-

Dober

[mick-G]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

Is it 10-12yrs old before the expire date or after? It is still safe to use, but the potency will prob be well deminished. Only thing you can do is to try it out and see, lol.

[Rado]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

I've been out of the scene for quite some time. Recently we decided to move to a different house. to make a long story short, I came across some of my "stuff" from long ago. it's about 10-12 years old.

My question is if it is still good/safe to use or what. Please give me some feedback-

Heres what I found:

Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg (Exp-1-94)
Ominadren 250mg (ampules-no Exp) got in 95
Testoprim-D (ampules -no Exp) got in 96
finaplix-h 10 ml (exp-SEP 99) Distributed by Hoechst-Roussel Agri-Vet Company Somerville, NJ (always questioned if this was a fake)
Winstrol Depot-1ml Stanzolol 50mg (Zanmbon, S.A. Lote: J021 CAD: 05/00) ampules

I heard that it will weaken over time, but that's it.

Again any help would be appreciated.-

Dober

That's your risk if you want to take it, I would not. Besides, it's not enough to make a good cycle.

And 10yrs old.....No way....I'd rather toss it and get new stuff than take a chance of some serious infection or injury to yourself.....

[doberguy]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

It's 10-12 yrs ago that I picked them up-

If there no good, I'll toss em', but have lost "friends" round here, may be hard to replace-

[Rado]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

It's 10-12 yrs ago that I picked them up-

If there no good, I'll toss em', but have lost "friends" round here, may be hard to replace-

I see what you're saying....Here's the thing; meds, drugs, AS do not go bad. What does happen is that they do lose potency over a period of time, hence the expriation date.


What can also happen is that bacteria could of build up inside of it. Read this, it may help out.

http://www.healthcare.ucla.edu/vital-signs/article-display?article_id=205

http://www.ohiohealth.com/healthreference/reference/BA89136B-B4D6-443B-AA5953EDED359BFB.htm?category=questions

http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update1103a.shtml

Drug Expiration Dates - Do They Mean Anything?
With a splitting headache you reach into your medicine cabinet for some aspirin only to find the stamped expiration date on the bottle has passed - two years ago. So, do you take it or don't you? If you decide to take the aspirin will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache?

This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Pyschopharmacology Today offers some advice.

It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.

Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.

So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.

Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.

The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.

[mick-G]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

They should still be sterile, as they are in the amps or sealed. Only thing of concern is the potency. And if you picked them up 10yrs ago and most aas have expires of 5yrs then they are about 5-6yrs expired. It is up to you, but like i said the only thing you need to be concerned about is the potency, they should still be good to use without risk of contamination.

[SMILEY FACE]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

i wouldn't take it ...That is me

[T-Man007]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

Since you are talking about injectables I would say no. One, even if they were safe in terms of sterileness, it more than likely has weakened in strength. Now, as to what happems to the compound when it weakens, who knows. I don't think there is enough study out there to say one way or another. It would be nice if a lab did study some old bottles to see what the strenght was. However, I would let the lab do it, not your body. IMO.

I came across some old primo amps (about 15) and I thought damn, that sucks. Not only were they past exp but they had been left in a lock box in my garage which gets anywhere from -10 degrees to 100 degress during the year. Mine were only 2 or 3 years past and I dumped 'em. I've heard that the extreme temp changes can make it crystalize and there was no was I was putting that in my body. Try expalining that to the emergency room. Can you say bye-bye medical insurance? Not worth it. IMO

[Rado]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

nice post rado

thx....replied to PM

[Blackfoot]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

I wouldn't take it. JMO And, that's a lot of gear to just forget about. Get organized brotha! J/K man.

[skeer126]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

yea well im guessing its probly lost about 3/4 of its potencyso maybe by upping ure dose by about 4 times.....lol..nah im kidding man...get ureself some fresh gear and have fun growing....

[FUZO]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

THROW IT AWAY

[lxorl]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

i would pass would you want to take 12 year old tylenol?

[doberguy]

Re: HELP! Found some OLD juice

Thanks to everyone that posted. I hear what you all are sayin'. It's not worth it- Sucks cause it's a nice little stash.

I'll work on some fresh gear-

later

dober