Nolvadex usage amount.

[superchicken]

Originally posted by voodoochild
I am on my first cycle right now and I am running 20mg per day of Nolva due to water retention. It seems to be working fine. My concern with liquidex is that I have heard it reduces HDL. Does anyone know if this is an actual fact or not?

maybe. now if it is obviously its bad for the heart. but high blood pressure is too, imo worse. ldex stops high bp. therfore, use ldex.

[G*B]

bump

[voodoochild]

Does L-dex reduce BP by reducing water retention? If that is the case wouldn't Nolva work the same way?

For some reason I am under the impression that Nolva will work fine up to a certain amount of test but beyond that you may need something a little stronger. I would love to hear other opinions on this.

[superchicken]

yes water retention raise bp.

nolva can reduce water bloat also, but ldex is more dose effective at doing so.

nolva can work for any dose of test, just take more nolva, but at high test doses and using lots of nolva youll have a ton of estrogen floating around, and i feel it would be better to controll it at least some by reducing the estrogen production by using ldex.

[voodoochild]

Thanks superchicken. That was a good explanation. It does make sense to eliminate estrogen before you have to deal with it. Guess I should clean up my diet so I don't have to worry so much about lipid profiles...as usual I was looking for a shortcut. But damn, those Big Macs taste good after so many chicken breasts, lol.

[superchicken]

lol stop eating chicken ok?

i think people are taking the whole 'ldex urts lipid profiles' too far.

its dose related. you only wanna take a dose of ldex to controll estrogen, keeping it from getting out of hand, not a dose that comes close to eliminateing estrogen. the study that showed it hurt lipid profiles use a high dose on someone who didnt use aas if i remember correct, which means they pretty much damn near eliminated estrogen.

having some estrogen is good, and if a fair amount is present your lipid profile wont be hurt badly, if at all. basically just take a light dose of ldex, this will controll estrogen from going wild, yet leaves some around for its benefits.
effects and side effects are all dose related, you go crazy on a ldex dose, yeah youll have a bad lipid profile. you go easy on the ldex dose, youll have a good lipid profile and still reap the benefits ldex has to offer.

[Brett_Weir]

I think a-dex is too quickly blamed......after reading more....Beesides how can you know when you have 3-5 things going at once....Personally i will always keep Nolva on hand.....

[johnnyboy845]

I always keep enough nolv on hand to run my entire cycle. If I have soreness I run 40mg ED until it goes away then 20mg until end of clomid... having a lot of nolv on hand makes me feel comfortable just in case....

[granby140]

20mg day will do you fine. But have extra just incase