Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

[geesler]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

Thanks bro- keep us posted on how things go!

[JST2012]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

Alright, I will. Does anyone else have any thoughts about this? If not, I think I'll start next week and see if it makes me feel better and gives me the energy I need to get going. I've been excercising lightly for the last few days but just don't have the energy to get in a real work out yet, hopefully if I start the low dose cycle first, then my energy and mood will go up and the deca will help my joints so I can do more. Let me know if you guys have any other thoughts on this. Thanks again.

[builtbigger4you]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

Good luck buddy! I hope everything goes well for you. I don't wanna sound like a winey ***** but after reading that I have a new respect for fighters like you. I can only imagine having to fight for something as simple as to feel normal. And to think of the complaints I have about my life? I need to shut my mouth and quit complaining. Best of luck again and let us know how it goes.

[JST2012]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

Thanks alot, we'll see how things go. It will take a little while to see how I'm going to feel and what I'll be able to do but I'll keep it posted.

[mick-G]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

Just my input, and i agree with the others. This is my recommendation: 200mg/wk hg Testosterone, and the amount of Deca you feel comfortable with, and maybe do short cycle like 8wk ones. If it were me i would only use human grade aas, because if you get any unclean aas and you get the flu, it will lower your immune system, and you don't want to chance that. Yes, there are many good ug labs out, but sometimes with them it is hit and miss. I would not use clen with a muscle wasting illness period, better to just implement cardio and clean diet. With the aas you use the bf should come off in time.

[JST2012]

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Alright Mick, thanks man. I think 200 of Test. and 200 of Deca will be what I'll start out with then unless there is some reason you guys think I should start out with a lower dose first. I was thinking roughly 150 of each at first but most of the guys I know said they wouldn't do less than 200 of each, and actually wanted me to do more Test. but I don't want or need that much for what I'm trying to do and I think too much Test. could make this unsuccessful if it drags my immune system down or gets too many chemicals in my body while I'm trying to get well. But I have read some good studys of Test. being good for blood cell count and a few other things, so maybe it will help too. But I don't think I need a lot. Besides, it would be wasted anyway because I can't train enough or hard enough to justify needing any more test right now. I remember starting out on something like 200 of Deca and Test. years ago and feeling a definite boost in my strength and energy and mood from those doses so if I can get that again now, it will help me in so many different aspects. I don't remember how long it took before I felt that boost though. It seems like I remember it coming on pretty quickly, but a couple of friends said it would take some time before they would kick in.

I've been able to get myself up and do some light, short workouts here at home the last few days, and been able to go bike riding for the first time in forever. I don't feel like doing it and it hurts and is very tiring but I think I'll keep doing light workouts and good cardio everyday. I think I'll start the cycle next week and see how I feel and when it kicks in and I have energy and feel good and motivated, I'll get to the gym everyday and step it up just a little bit at a time.

In your opinion guys, how long do you think it will take before I feel the boost in energy and mood after taking the first shot? I remember thinking it was pretty quickly, like a few days. But I've been told everything from "you'll feel it instantly" to "it will take two or three weeks before your levels build up and then it will kick in." So let me know what you think. I personally think I will feel better quicker than most guys just because of the shape I'm in now and since my test. and growth hormone levels were a little low inthe first place. Speaking of that, just curious as to whether anyone has tried the P-GH from sciensupply for HGH promotion or what they think about the concept of it. All I know is that the spray my doctor told me to get is junk as far as I can tell.

Anyway, guys, thanks again for reading all of these long posts and helping me out. I'm enthusiastic about trying this and it will be interesting to see how much it may change my life and my health. Let me know what you guys think if there is anyone else with any experience or suggestions or opinions about this. If nobody else has much more to say, then I'll get started next week and keep you posted on how it goes. Would you guys like me to start a new Thread to post the progress when I get started next week? I think that would be better than keeping on going on this one, but let me know.

Thanks again everyone.

[mick-G]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

I think you will be alright with what you have in mind. Don't bring in hgh yet. The fewer the aas for you the better. Take this and see how well you do, and you should feel the well being in the first wk. What most bros are saying about the 3-4wks is the blood levels to build up to start seeing increases in strenght, but you will def feel the increase in libido and well being quickly, i know i do. If you want to try hgh later just do a few iu ed along with a low dosage of test and that should also work well, but gh needs to be run for longer periods.

[JST2012]

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Well, I wasn't really planning on using HGH unless I could find some for after the cycle. But I was mainly wondering if anyone had used that hgh promotor called P-GH, from scienceupply. if it woked and people were happy with itk then I was just thinking aoubt using it lat. ater

[JST2012]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

Alright, I started the Deca and Test. yesterday. I've got a lot of things to do today so we'll see how I feel. And I'll probably get in a light workout this evening. I guess we'll see here shortly how much better it makes me feel and how much energy boost I'll get. Just woke up, so I can't tell today, but I do feel a little more enthusiastic about getting out and doing things later and excercising this evening. I'll keep you guys posted on how things go. Thanks.

[JST2012]

Re: Deca with clen/eca? and how much cardio can I do?

Hey guys, so it's been almost 3 weeks now since I started. I'm feeling much better and able to get up and get around and get into the gym and not have much pain at all. There's no way I could have done this a month or two ago. It's been rough though. I lost my house and everything in it during the hurricane so I'm in another place now and have enough gear to finish this first little cycle, but lost the rest in the hurricane. Well, it's probably still there, but under 8 feet of nasty water in a drawer. Anyway, I'm able to do things now and get some energy up and feel much better. Going to the Gym as much as I can, started off slow, moving up now. I'm looking and feeling better and am able to do things I would not have been able to do otherwise, I'm glad I gave this a try. Now I've got to relocate and see what happens, but at least I'm feeling up to it now. Sucks that everything in my house and the rest of my stash of gear is underwater right now, but life goes on. Just wanted to let you guys know what was up. Haven't been able to get on here since the hurricane, so thought I'd check in. Hope everyone else is doing OK and didn't live on the gulf coast and get screwed by that Hurricane. Alright, thanks for your help guys, and I'll check in later.