Please comment my cycle

[trenboloni]

Goals are to gain muscle mass and strength with little bloat. The cycle plan is attached in .txt format (very small file, opens via Word, Wordperfect Wordpad, Notepad or whatever text editor you are using)

I'm keeping the deca dose lowish and the deca intake short because I don't want it to linger in my system after the cycle has ended. Also I hope it will help with the dry joints winny gives me.

Otherwise this is basically a test-winny cycle... with some deca and IGF added for a (hopefully) little more boost. Please let me know what you think.

[JsJs24]

Re: Please comment my cycle

It looks ok and I'm assuming it isn't your first one right? If it is then you should stick to 400-500mg of enan. Otherwise I would keep it at 750mg throughout, no need to decrease it imo. The winny looks good and the deca is not really long enough to give much effect. Also, 10wks of enan would yield better results imo.

[Blackfoot]

Re: Please comment my cycle

Personally, I think the deca dosage of 200mg is too low. I've used this dosage and wish I would've upped it to 300-400mg. I'm pretty sure it should be ran at 1.5 - 2 mg per lb of bodyweight to see noticable gains.

[trenboloni]

Re: Please comment my cycle

I've never used deca before and I'm afraid of the bloat... Ok, what if I up the deca dose to 600mg for wk1-2 (frontload) and then 400mg weekly after that?

Same goes for test enathate, I know 750mg will yield better results but I don't want the bloat and to tell you the truth, I don't want to pack on lots of water and muscle too fast either... that's why I chose winny and not f.ex. dbol or adrol. My other options were oral-turinabol and anavar, which I both have in stock but I will save them for later, maybe a spring lean mass/cutter cycle.

The IGF and deca are new compounds for me, that's the main reason why I'm being a bit conservative in dosage.

Oh yes, and I will up the IGF to 60mcg per day as I have read old posts suggesting that it's the lowest one should take for any good effects.

[Phreak]

Re: Please comment my cycle

Personally, I think the deca dosage of 200mg is too low. I've used this dosage and wish I would've upped it to 300-400mg. I'm pretty sure it should be ran at 1.5 - 2 mg per lb of bodyweight to see noticable gains.

this is accurate. the optimal dose for deca is 2mg per lb. of lean mass. anything more than that brings more side effects than benefits, and anything less will have a very light, if any, anabolic effect.

i would take the test e down to 500mg all the way through so you can run it for longer. i like the idea of bringing in the winny during the latter half of the cycle; it will help to curtail water retention due to it's anti-estrogenic effects.

yoy may want to hold off on the deca and start it about two weeks before the winny... you need some more as well. take your lean bodyweight and multiply it by 2; there is your dose. by holding out to use the deca you will have some to take when the winny takes effect, which for me is an absolute must as the winny will dry out your joints. i can't take winny without deca.

oh yeah and if you're really worried about water retention, get some adex and bring it in about week 5 and run it through to two weeks after your last test injection.

[Equalizer]

Re: Please comment my cycle

run the deca for 10 weeks at 300-400 and the test enanthate at 500 for 12 weeks.

[Slightly Enhanced]

Re: Please comment my cycle

my suggestion is to extend this to 12 weeks

[O2BESOHUGE]

Re: Please comment my cycle

my suggestion is to extend this to 12 weeks

I AGREE WITH SE, ALSO UP THE DECA TO 400 MGS AT LEAST. YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED.

O2

[snickers1]

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I AGREE WITH SE, ALSO UP THE DECA TO 400 MGS AT LEAST. YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED.

O2

what he said ..... 12 weeks and 400 mgs of deca should be safe with no prob down in man land

[mick-G]

Re: Please comment my cycle

Deca can be detected in your system up to 18 months, so i don't really understand your "linger in your system..." statement? I personally would do the deca for at least 10wks min @ 400mg/wk or don't do it. I really don't like deca though, it doesn't agree with me.

[trenboloni]

Re: Please comment my cycle

mick-G, I meant PCT. Long esters clear the system slower for post cycle therapy so I'd like to stop the long esters way before starting PCT.