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Re: Wanna get my HCG right....
there are so many different theories about HCG; it can be really confusing as to who to trust and what path to take: throughout the cycle in small doses, in the middle of the cycle in moderate doses (both of which get you into the whole nut desensitizing thing), during the last week of the cycle and the first two weeks of PCT, or not until 10 days after your last injection of long acting esters or 3 days after the last injection of short esters. or not during PCT at all...
i have been researching this a lot lately, looking at all the different theories and ideas and past uses that folks have done.
this is my opinion of how it should be done based on that research---
the length of your cycle and the amount of drugs you have taken should give you an idea of how to administer the HCG.
i don't see the point of administering it during the cycle... using it all the way through seriously increases the risk of the desensitization of the lydeg cells in the testes AND HCG can suppressive of testosterone production when used for long periods. i also don't see the point of using it mid-cycle, as you are still on the AAS and as soon as the effect from the HCG wears off you will be right back where you started. plus, HCG can cause gyno as the immediate boost in testosterone will be coupled with heavy aromatization. many, MANY cases of gyno can be attributed to HCG.
i look at it like this: my nuts are going to shrink when i'm "on"; i'll sort them out when i come off.
if i were using two long esters, i would wait until 10 days after my last injection to start the HCG, as i will still have plenty of AAS in my system at this point. i would administer 1000iu three times a week for two weeks. short esters wait 3 days.
starting week 2 i would begin the administration of nolvadex and/or clomid to stimulate the production of test and for their anti-estrogenic effects. the amount of each is subjective here, but i would personally start with 60mg of nolva and 50mg of clomid for the first week, 40mg nolva and 50mg clomid for week three, and 20mg nolva week four.
i know i'm getting into more of a PCT thing here than HCG only; but i just don't see HCG without SERMS.
anyways this is all IMO based on my personal research. i'm sure there are other ways to use HCG as well that are probably very effective.
there are so many different theories about HCG; it can be really confusing as to who to trust and what path to take: throughout the cycle in small doses, in the middle of the cycle in moderate doses (both of which get you into the whole nut desensitizing thing), during the last week of the cycle and the first two weeks of PCT, or not until 10 days after your last injection of long acting esters or 3 days after the last injection of short esters. or not during PCT at all...
i have been researching this a lot lately, looking at all the different theories and ideas and past uses that folks have done.
this is my opinion of how it should be done based on that research---
the length of your cycle and the amount of drugs you have taken should give you an idea of how to administer the HCG.
i don't see the point of administering it during the cycle... using it all the way through seriously increases the risk of the desensitization of the lydeg cells in the testes AND HCG can suppressive of testosterone production when used for long periods. i also don't see the point of using it mid-cycle, as you are still on the AAS and as soon as the effect from the HCG wears off you will be right back where you started. plus, HCG can cause gyno as the immediate boost in testosterone will be coupled with heavy aromatization. many, MANY cases of gyno can be attributed to HCG.
i look at it like this: my nuts are going to shrink when i'm "on"; i'll sort them out when i come off.
if i were using two long esters, i would wait until 10 days after my last injection to start the HCG, as i will still have plenty of AAS in my system at this point. i would administer 1000iu three times a week for two weeks. short esters wait 3 days.
starting week 2 i would begin the administration of nolvadex and/or clomid to stimulate the production of test and for their anti-estrogenic effects. the amount of each is subjective here, but i would personally start with 60mg of nolva and 50mg of clomid for the first week, 40mg nolva and 50mg clomid for week three, and 20mg nolva week four.
i know i'm getting into more of a PCT thing here than HCG only; but i just don't see HCG without SERMS.
anyways this is all IMO based on my personal research. i'm sure there are other ways to use HCG as well that are probably very effective.
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