Cycle advice

[Skarhead]

Re: Cycle advice

YOU KNOW WHAT MY FRIEND.. ITS TRUE..GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN AS A
NATTY AND THEN IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO BE BIGGER YOU GO FOR IT.
BUT IF YOUR GONNA TRIP ON THE DARK SIDE..YA NEED TO DO IT THE RIGHT
WAY WITH THE RIGHT ADVICE.. TO EASY TO HURT SOMEONE AND THEN YOU
HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.. THATS NOT A SLAM BRO AS I DONT GO THERE.
THATS JUST THE WAY I LIVE IT.
RESPECT,
POPPA

Its really late here, and im confused right now but

are you saying im offering advice that could hurt someone by saying 4 weeks of dbol aint enough?

[Skarhead]

Re: Cycle advice

your not happy about using geag, but yet...hang on Im confused...feel like Im talking to an Oreo, seeing one thing out side, while the inside is different..I am leaving the thread,

As my Dad use to say:

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to thier level and beat you with experience...You were given some great advice from some great Bro's...don't be dumb with it...use it..and unless your metabo is really jacked up, your not feeling anything for a while, Your body has to get use to the new test, and then use the adjustment before you even begin...that takes at least 3 to 4 weeks...

I have an idea..If you want so much water, run D-bol, Creatine, and drink Kool-aide.

<--- just do that dude, u're better off

**Edited by HungarianBeast... NO BLATANT FLAMING***

[poppa-j]

Re: Cycle advice

Its really late here, and im confused right now but

are you saying im offering advice that could hurt someone by saying 4 weeks of dbol aint enough?

YES I AM BRO! DBOL IS VERY HARD ON THE LIVER AND KIDNEYS.
ITS NOT SOMETHING I'D RECOMMEND FOR LONGER THAT 4 WEEKS.
I KNOW A FEW GOOD BROS WHO FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY.
SOMETIMES MORE IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER BRO..
RESPECT
POPPA

[Skarhead]

Re: Cycle advice

YES I AM BRO! DBOL IS VERY HARD ON THE LIVER AND KIDNEYS.
ITS NOT SOMETHING I'D RECOMMEND FOR LONGER THAT 4 WEEKS.
I KNOW A FEW GOOD BROS WHO FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY.
SOMETIMES MORE IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER BRO..
RESPECT
POPPA

strange.. i havent been around the blcok for years or anything, but ive never heard of anyone getting themselve in trouble from using too much 17aas. I always had blood work done using them and never ever had a problem. Ive known many people to get blood work done w/ no problems on 17aas. ive never seen anyone get jaundice or kidney problems..


I realize more is not better, beileve me im all about safety first, but imo 4 weeks of dbol is nothing. have you ever gotten blood work using 17aas by chance?

and theres no way you acn really refute saying i gave dangerous advice to begin with. First, we're giving him advice on AAS, they're dangerous too.

[JsJs24]

Re: Cycle advice

6-8 weeks of d-bol, talk about water retention. Get at least 6 months in the gym, then do a test only at 500mg

JohnnyB

Sound advice as always.

[HungarianBeast]

Re: Cycle advice

6-8 weeks of d-bol, talk about water retention. Get at least 6 months in the gym, then do a test only at 500mg

JohnnyB

The best post of the thread!

[Slightly Enhanced]

Re: Cycle advice

The topics that are being discussed are not black & white subjects. Just like fitness principles, each individual reacts differently.

17aa’s are toxic but the toxicity is definitely different for each person which is why blood work is stressed so much.

Personally I have never taken began a cycle with only a long ester. Therefore I cannot comment on “when do you begin to feel it”

I would like to point out that there can be a clear distinction between when one “feels” it and when it actually begins to work its magic.

Please Remember to Respectfully Disagree. When you tell someone that their ideas are stupid then tension is bound to rise.

It is okay to disagree and debate. This is a good way for real discussion to take place. But don’t use derogatory terms to describe someone.

[KUCAK]

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Wow, what happened?? Lets all calm down.
Im not new to the game at all. just lookin for some fresh new ideas. I know enough to know i need months of trainin and dieting to get back in. I didnt get to 250 before, by eating shit and not training.. i know they are #1. thats why i always stress them. Ive done many cycles before. I just found myself going back to certain cycles that ive done. just looking for some new direction....
Just ideas.. no arguing.. Damn women..lol

[geesler]

Re: Cycle advice

strange.. i havent been around the blcok for years or anything

Thats funny, pfad told me you'd been around a few times and he had to wear 2 condoms just to be safe

[KUCAK]

Re: Cycle advice

Now thats how you calm a situation. Very well put..

The topics that are being discussed are not black & white subjects. Just like fitness principles, each individual reacts differently.

17aa’s are toxic but the toxicity is definitely different for each person which is why blood work is stressed so much.

Personally I have never taken began a cycle with only a long ester. Therefore I cannot comment on “when do you begin to feel it”

I would like to point out that there can be a clear distinction between when one “feels” it and when it actually begins to work its magic.

Please Remember to Respectfully Disagree. When you tell someone that their ideas are stupid then tension is bound to rise.

It is okay to disagree and debate. This is a good way for real discussion to take place. But don’t use derogatory terms to describe someone.

[badasz32]

Re: Cycle advice

well from personal experiance i gain weight prolly 5 pounds the first week. then another 3-5 the second week. if u dotn beleive me u can look at my journal i posted way before i was a MOD here. strengt gains the second week and dramatic strenght gains by week 3. this wasnt using just a long ester it was using t-400 which is a blend.

my second run was a lil different i ran BD cyp at 500mg a week and i could notice strenght gains by the end of tthe second week. i dont know if it was a mentality thing but i did put up more weight.

lets drop all the fighting and insults its not productive for anyone. *everysingle individual has differnt genetics and reacts dif. to drugs.

[badasz32]

Re: Cycle advice

kucak my personal opinion would be to do test enan/cyp alone or with eq.
i would go low dosage nothing over 500mg of each.

[KUCAK]

Re: Cycle advice

Well my brother, i planned on doin just that. 500 enan, and 400eq. nothing else.. i started over thinkin and thats when i wanted opinions. I planned on throwing prop in the beginning then throw in some winny the last 6 weeks.. then i had to calm down. I need to go slow. cant jump back in and expect to be doing all that to soon. baby steps...lol.. Thanks all.

kucak my personal opinion would be to do test enan/cyp alone or with eq.
i would go low dosage nothing over 500mg of each.

[mick-G]

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First time ive read this, but this Skye bro is killing me with his "misconceptions" and playing with words, lol! I can tell by day 2 whether im using test, but the effects from long estered tests don't start to kick in till at least wk 4. Also, blood levels must build up from the depo, and it doesn't matter where you inject. Hell, according to his " 5th misconception" id be waiting like 10-15 wks to start seeing anything, because i don't inject in the same location twice, lol!