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  • Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

    With out getting too much into detail, i have been into bodybuilding and Juicing for 7 years now. Done some massive cycles back in the days 2g test + stuff like that. This is really readers digest versions but i got really addicted to prescription pain meds for about a year and then that escaleted to fullblown oxycontin and cocaine addiction and by the end was herion. Long story short i'm lucky to be alive and have such a wonderful family... I went to an impaitent rehababiltaion for 60 days the 1st of March. The last shot of steroids i did was in december of 04 but keep in mind i was a full blown junkie and just ran whatever was there at the time... All that being said, heres my delemia... I have all my shit ready and want to do a big cycle and then actually cycle off... unlike my past where i just stayed on years at a time... I want to gain 20 or so pounds and then come off for another 6 months at a minimum.. Main reason is i want to stay away from that old addict behavior where i always need something, weather to get High or get big, same thing. So i want to go all out and really put on size, tell me what you think, do i need higher MG??

    Test 400 by Denkal 800mgs pw 1-12
    Deca 300 by QV 300mg pw 1-12
    Fina home brewed 100mg ED 1-12
    Slin 10ius's pd 1-4 and 10-14

    Yes, i have ran Deca and Fina many times together with no problems... however is 300mg to low? I'm just thinking with 7 months off, after about 3.5 years pretty much straight being ON, that those doses may be suffcient.

    Sorry such a long strang post, i guess i just like it to be known that i myself am a recovering drug addict and would love to lend a helping hand to anyone going through the same shit, i dont have too much time behind my belt but i'm passionate about it and feel i could help another bb out. ANyway, thanks for the time! Let me know what you all think i could change... Money isnt really an issue... Only roid i have ever disliked has been Winny... too expensicve and too hard on joints.
    Yep, thats right, i'm a monkey and you're not.

  • #2
    Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

    what are your stats?
    so fresh and so clean clean




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    • #3
      Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

      yes what are you stats. i was in a similar boat not too long ago. lots of heavy rec use including what you have done and i was on juice for 3 years or so without really coming off. been off now since last august due to injury. stopped rec usage as well. when i start a cycle again i'm keeping my doses as low as possible and not using as many compounds at once as i once did. my test dosage will only be 500mgs along with 600 of eq. depending on how big you are you might be able to lower that test dosage as well.

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      • #4
        Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

        i would say use as little as possible.
        I'm Just an old chunk of Coal, But I'm gonna be a DIAMOND some day.





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        • #5
          Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

          congrats on getting off of the pain meds, that's a bad scene.

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          • #6
            Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

            Sorry stats are 5'9 212 with around 9-10%bf... maybe a touch higher. I was around 235ish with 8% before getting heavy into the drugs... thats where i'm trying to get again. I am a little bit of a genetic gifted person... so hopefully i can get there again without too much juice. Already in 6 months since quiting herion i have gone from 180 and soft to my current stats... amazed at the muscle memory!
            Yep, thats right, i'm a monkey and you're not.

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            • #7
              Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

              212 9-10%, thats pretty solid bro. i'm really glad to hear you got off that shit, thats just bad news. personally, what i would do is keep the doses moderate. drop the tren for now, just use it later to maybe cut. i'd just run the test at 800/week and the deca at 600/week and run HCG throughout and have a solid pct set up and you could easily get 20lbs. oh yeah, keep those calories, carbs and protein up as well. good luck bro.
              Hey, I never saw a skinny bodybuilder before - eat away!
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              • #8
                Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                800 a week of test and 600 deca is the most i would use for a come back cycle. u could get away with even less test but that cycle is just easier

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                • #9
                  Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                  Congrats on cleanin up.. the issue i have is make sure you arent trading one compulsion for another.. You seem like you are knowledgeable and have been in the game for a while.. So i think you are doin it right..
                  Personally, i would get into a super low cycle.. 400 test 300-400 eq.. Low i know, but to getthe receptors going. Then you can only build off of that cycle..
                  Good luck
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                  • #10
                    Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                    id say stear clear of all drugs, but hey thats just my opinion.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                      same here. I would stay clear from drugs for a lo ng time b4 i hit a cycle


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                      • #12
                        Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                        Listen to the Twins^

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                        • #13
                          Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                          I dont know what to tell you man but be careful. Once you start injecting the gear again and start getting stronger and more "amped" up on the gear you may find it easy to restart the other s@@#! again. YOU only know if you think you can handle the temptation while on gear. Id give it alot of thought. I hope you make your gains and keep off the narcotics.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                            Originally posted by mick-G
                            Listen to the Twins^
                            NOW THATS FUNNY! within 1 minute of each other too!! that avatar about puts me into seizures everytime i look at it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Starting up new cycle following drug addiction...

                              i wouldnt even run the fina but stick with the rest as long as you know what you are doing with the slin.

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