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i've tried eql t400, great gear, no pain at all. and to think, all
my "friends" warned me not to take it, said it would be too painfull
i guess it's time to get new "friends"
I'm on the prop/fina combo. Shooting 1cc day alternating sites with a 25ga 5/8 pin. First shot hurt. So then I thought about warming it up. I warmed it up for 20 minutes @ 200F. Shot it while still warm. BAM!!!!!! No fucking PAIN!!! Now I'm loving this motherfucker! On my 5th week up 22lbs. Hard and VASCULAR!!! I'm @ 232 now.
So bro, don't CHUCK the one you have. Try warming it up!!!! Maybe it will work for you.
Originally posted by gonzaox I'm on the prop/fina combo. Shooting 1cc day alternating sites with a 25ga 5/8 pin. First shot hurt. So then I thought about warming it up. I warmed it up for 20 minutes @ 200F. Shot it while still warm. BAM!!!!!! No fucking PAIN!!! Now I'm loving this motherfucker! On my 5th week up 22lbs. Hard and VASCULAR!!! I'm @ 232 now.
So bro, don't CHUCK the one you have. Try warming it up!!!! Maybe it will work for you.
Warming it up only would allow it to dissopate in the muscle more. I dont see what else that would do, but Ive done it and it does help sometimes.
I would dilute the stuff in half at least. Just take 2x the shot you were. If it still hurts after that, PM me or something and Ill give you details how to take most the BA out and then put in some better solvents that wont hurt as muc if needed.
I find that heating up sustanon makes it virtualy pain free so it is worth trying. Where is EQL made, is it a state side thing? Is it available in Europe?
Originally posted by Billy_Bathgate Warming it up only would allow it to dissopate in the muscle more. I dont see what else that would do, but Ive done it and it does help sometimes.
I would dilute the stuff in half at least. Just take 2x the shot you were. If it still hurts after that, PM me or something and Ill give you details how to take most the BA out and then put in some better solvents that wont hurt as muc if needed.
My 2 cents is this: The EQL Sust hurts!!! I divided glute shots into only 1/2 ml and added 1/4 ml of EQ to help a bit - but I still have trouble lying down. Tried icy hot patches, no relief!!! Whew, I hope these painful shots become less of a problem. I still squatted the other day, but damn, it feels like I have buckshot in my ass.
Drveejay11, i agree just add a bit of sterile oil, im very confident adding 1/2ml of oil to 1ml of the eql should reduce or eliminate the pain greatly! back when qv enanthate killed worse than t400, i did this and it made it totally pain free. the 175,mg/ml is prob just a tad unstable so it only needs a bit of diluting to keep it from hurting
but the FIRST thing i would do, is mix it with some eq. now i know you cant keep mixing with eq cause your prob taking 400-600mg eq a wk, so 1-1.5ml, and 1.5ml isnt much to dilute 5-7ml of the eql. but just TRY it next shot to see how much it help!
your prob thinking that since their eq is 400mg/ml it wont cut the pain much since its a high mg/ml itself, but eq is VERY soluable so you could basically consider it almost equivalent to using sterile oil to dilute.
order some sterile oil from someone, and in the meantime use the eq bro, try 1/2ml, i BET youll be pleased.
Originally posted by superchicken Drveejay11, i agree just add a bit of sterile oil, im very confident adding 1/2ml of oil to 1ml of the eql should reduce or eliminate the pain greatly! back when qv enanthate killed worse than t400, i did this and it made it totally pain free. the 175,mg/ml is prob just a tad unstable so it only needs a bit of diluting to keep it from hurting
but the FIRST thing i would do, is mix it with some eq. now i know you cant keep mixing with eq cause your prob taking 400-600mg eq a wk, so 1-1.5ml, and 1.5ml isnt much to dilute 5-7ml of the eql. but just TRY it next shot to see how much it help!
your prob thinking that since their eq is 400mg/ml it wont cut the pain much since its a high mg/ml itself, but eq is VERY soluable so you could basically consider it almost equivalent to using sterile oil to dilute.
order some sterile oil from someone, and in the meantime use the eq bro, try 1/2ml, i BET youll be pleased.
Thanks Superchicken!
hell, I actually got quite a bit of help on this thread.....thanks fellas! It's appreciated!
Originally posted by Berzerker My 2 cents is this: The EQL Sust hurts!!! I divided glute shots into only 1/2 ml and added 1/4 ml of EQ to help a bit - but I still have trouble lying down. Tried icy hot patches, no relief!!! Whew, I hope these painful shots become less of a problem. I still squatted the other day, but damn, it feels like I have buckshot in my ass.
What does eveyone think about diluting it with injectable B12? I think I could use the B12 anyway. I can't mix the profina with any other gear because I don't want to add any long esters.
B12 should make it worse actually. Some of the BA contained in the oil will transfer over to the water. The water will not be around long and then your left with an even more unstable depot.
just did my 2nd shot of EQL enathate and EQ this morning, I am doing this once a week 400mg of ea in a single 2ml shot. The first one felt bruised for about 5 days but pain is not bad at all, it didn't affect workouts, walking,etc. .. will post more after I start seeing gains.
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