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I wouldn't run two 17aa at the same time. This is what i would do 500mg/wk EQ 12wks, at least 400mg/wk test Cypionate or Enathate 14wks, Durabolin 300mg/wk 100mg Mon/Wed/Sat for 12 wks,Var 40-50mg split ed wks 1-8, Winstrol 50mg split ed wks 11-16 start pct after last day of winstrol. You can taper down the test last wk when running the strol if you want.
That is a pretty big cycle for what he is looking for I think Mick. Also, might as well throw in some tren if it's a cutter.
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Lol, well Js, this is the only thing i could think of using all the aas he wanted to use. EQ, imo has to be run for at least 12 wks or he won't see anything off it, and i don't like the running of two 17aa together, so with this there is a two wk break between the two of them, and running the strol at the end will help solidify his gains. I would also run ldex thruout or aroma, and also run hcg after the cycle, but before pct. He will see alot of solid gains from this, as i ran the durabolin my last cycle with eq and it was kick ass! With the dura he'll hold alot less water and get alot tighter than with the regular Deca and the gains are more solid and retained post cycle.
I will add if he really wants to only do an 8wker, I personally would use prop or sustanon three times a wk and draw it up with the durabolin. So it would be 250 sustanon drawn up with 100mg of durabolin for three shots ew, or use the prop and run either the var or the stan not both. This is just my opinion, but as i said eq for 8wks to me is a waste, as most bros don't start seeing results off it till wk 5-6 and myself i do not see anything till wk7. Other than running the two 17aa together which i don't like using both together will yield not much of a diff than using one or the other. You can get very good strength gains off the stan just as you would off the var, but in this situation i think the stan would work better for a cutter.
pros do it to get in contest shape, but for everyone trying to get big and stay lean, bulkking and cutting is stupid what do you not understand about that article?
Originally posted by TRAM
IF CUTTING AND BULKING WERE STUPID OUR PRO'S WOULDN'T HAVE AND ON AND OFF SEASON HENCE OFF SEASON BULKER PRECONTEST CUTTER HHMMM. THINK ABOUT IT SKARHEAD IT'S EXREMELY DIFFICULT TO DO THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME W/ THE BEST RESULTS.
ABOUT THE TEST YOU SHOULD ADD IT, EVEN IF IT'S PROP W/ A FASTER ESTER. ENTH COULD EVEN WORK IF YOUR DIET IS CLEAN EVERY ONES BODY REACTS DIFFERNET IF YOU READ PAST TREADS ESTER EFECTS SOME PEEPS AND OTHERS DIFFERENTLY, JUST LIKE SOME PEEPS CAN EAT JUCK FOOD W/ NO RESULTS WERE AS SOME CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE SHIT.
I will add if he really wants to only do an 8wker, I personally would use prop or sustanon three times a wk and draw it up with the durabolin. So it would be 250 sustanon drawn up with 100mg of durabolin for three shots ew, or use the prop and run either the var or the stan not both. This is just my opinion, but as i said eq for 8wks to me is a waste, as most bros don't start seeing results off it till wk 5-6 and myself i do not see anything till wk7. Other than running the two 17aa together which i don't like using both together will yield not much of a diff than using one or the other. You can get very good strength gains off the stan just as you would off the var, but in this situation i think the stan would work better for a cutter.
I would just run the durabolin with some prop and winny, but your advice is solid too mick.
I'd try this perhaps:
wks 1-8 test prop 100 pr 150mg eod
wks 1-8 durabolin 100mg eod
wks 1-8 winny 50mg ed
Damn I actually might run this one soon...lol. I'd like to try prop/duraolin,turinabol.
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I really appreciate all the great ideas........even yours Scarhead...I will definitlely make changes and probably lengthen that cycle. I feel like even though I have been doin' this for a few years, and done lots of research, there is still tons to learn, and all you bros on the board are a great help.
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