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Test Cycle and Natural Supression
Hi Guys- I'm wondering what you guys think about his other thread.
Basically this guy is asying that Test for a first cycle (or any cycle really) will cause a greater degree of shutdown and be harder to recover from, and he is saying to NOT run test for a first cycle. This is th efirst time I have heard/read anything like this. Pretty much every suggested first cycle I have come across is recommended a test only cycle. I'd appreciate any of your thoughts on this. Thanks!
Basically this guy is asying that Test for a first cycle (or any cycle really) will cause a greater degree of shutdown and be harder to recover from, and he is saying to NOT run test for a first cycle. This is th efirst time I have heard/read anything like this. Pretty much every suggested first cycle I have come across is recommended a test only cycle. I'd appreciate any of your thoughts on this. Thanks!
(Originally Posted by TheMindOfRoss) Listen...your first cycle should NOT BE TEST. Unfortunately, many on this board value their gratification moreso than their health and well-being. YES, by taking any foreign androgen you will temporarily supress your testosterone production(to VARYING DEGREES) YES for the TIME BEING, you may encounter some sexual difficulties ON CYCLE. ONCE you come off, you will exprerience a rebound (so long as NON-AROMATIZING steroids are used) in natural test levels, and with the help of clomid and tribulus, you will maintain nearly all of your gains. HOWEVER, most people on this board WANT TO KEEP TEST IN THEIR BLOOD AT ALL TIME. They FEEL intuitively that the body should always have test. This is WRONG. This is NOT HEALTHY. By supplementing with SUPRAPHYSIOLOGICAL amounts of TESTOSTERONE to compensate for the loss of natural test production is downright RIDICULOUS logic--formulated soley for the purpose of justifying adding test to EVERY CYCLE. You are SHUTDOWN--with test or WITHOUT it. When you are on TEST however, it doesnt matter if you are shutdown, you will still experience the effects of TEST because there is 1,000 mgs of it pumping through your blood. HOWEVER, NOW when you come off cycle, you must recover from a MUCH DEEPER supression, which likely will make it VERY difficult to maintain your gains. SO....TEST is NOT The answer. In my humble opinion, you should run a moderate dosage of Anavar for your first cycle. I did this and put on 15lbs of ROCK HARD mass.....
SUPRESSION is not static--there are varying DEGREES of suppression that are dose and chemical dependent. The amount of testosterone the body produces while on a TEST/DECCA cycle, is FAAAR LESS then the amount the body produces while on Winstrol, EQ, Var, or Primo--Even d-bol. However, the difference is that these other compounds don't stimulate libido like test does, so YES, while on cycle you will have some sexual difficulties in the absence of TEST. However, it will be far easier to recover from a cycle WITHOUT test than with one.....This..is a FACT.
SUPRESSION is not static--there are varying DEGREES of suppression that are dose and chemical dependent. The amount of testosterone the body produces while on a TEST/DECCA cycle, is FAAAR LESS then the amount the body produces while on Winstrol, EQ, Var, or Primo--Even d-bol. However, the difference is that these other compounds don't stimulate libido like test does, so YES, while on cycle you will have some sexual difficulties in the absence of TEST. However, it will be far easier to recover from a cycle WITHOUT test than with one.....This..is a FACT.
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