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I see so many guys confused about PCT and some really need to step up their game on PCT. Yes you can get by with a standard clomid pct but why settle for that if you can really supercharge your nuts into getting those natural hormones producing again. I think regardless of the amounts you used unless it is an extrememly low andgrongen at lower dosages you could benefit greatly from a PCT like this. It is absolutely essential to get your natural levels stabilized along with adjustments to diet,training,cardio to keep the max amount of gains possible. Your body is very vunerable and is in somewhat of a catabolic state following the stopage of exogenous hormones especially higher dosage long duration cycles we all love. This is just one of the numerous reference pieces i collected over the years. I have researched this subject alot more than just this article but i thought since alot of guys here probably knew geardup if they dont trust me then trust him.
This is a post GEARDUP(RIP) made 3-4 years ago on a board i was a seasoned advisor on (1000+ post), which was home to many of the guys that are vets and mods on just about any board you go on now including this one. The last 4 cycles i have followed a hcg,clomid,nolvadex pct and even through some insulin (dont try it pct if you arent experienced with it imo) and I will tell you the effect is quite noticeably more profound than that of just a standard clomid thereapy. Check this out....
"Studies prove we may be wrong about HCG post cycle
this was dug up by doggcrapp off animals board.kizer_soce from AR alterted me about this.
The Study: Two hypogonadal former anabolic steroid users were studied. Normal levels of LH are >3.6 IU/L and Testosterone are 300?1000 ng/dl. Former anabolic steroid users often have suppressed levels of both.
The Results: Subject #1 is a 6', 206lb former user of 500-2000+ grams per week of anabolics. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=191ng/dl. This suject underwent a 32 day treatment of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=5.2IU/L, Test=1072 ng/dl.
Subject #2 is a 5'10", 184lb male who used 400 mg per week of nandrolone. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=45ng/dl. This subject's 32 day treatment consisted of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. There was no change. He underwent another treatment consisting of 60 days of 5000 IU of HCG every 4 days for 4 injections, then 2500 IU every 4 days for 4 injections, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. Still, no change. For the next 32 days, this subject received 5000 IU of HCG every other day for 6 injections, then 2500 IU every other day for 6 injections given with 150 IU of menotropins, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex 2 times per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=9.8IU/L, Test=507 ng/dl.(20)
Comments: The authors of this paper have presented some very interesting data that the medical community needs to learn from. When dealing with former androgen users, there may be better ways to increase Testosterone than the standard patch treatment (which will only prolong the problem of decreased T production.) Hypogonadal former androgen users need a treatment, not a band-aid. If you need to jump start your Testosterone after an androgen cycle, this combination of HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex may be just what the doctor ordered."
This is a post GEARDUP(RIP) made 3-4 years ago on a board i was a seasoned advisor on (1000+ post), which was home to many of the guys that are vets and mods on just about any board you go on now including this one. The last 4 cycles i have followed a hcg,clomid,nolvadex pct and even through some insulin (dont try it pct if you arent experienced with it imo) and I will tell you the effect is quite noticeably more profound than that of just a standard clomid thereapy. Check this out....
"Studies prove we may be wrong about HCG post cycle
this was dug up by doggcrapp off animals board.kizer_soce from AR alterted me about this.
The Study: Two hypogonadal former anabolic steroid users were studied. Normal levels of LH are >3.6 IU/L and Testosterone are 300?1000 ng/dl. Former anabolic steroid users often have suppressed levels of both.
The Results: Subject #1 is a 6', 206lb former user of 500-2000+ grams per week of anabolics. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=191ng/dl. This suject underwent a 32 day treatment of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=5.2IU/L, Test=1072 ng/dl.
Subject #2 is a 5'10", 184lb male who used 400 mg per week of nandrolone. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=45ng/dl. This subject's 32 day treatment consisted of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. There was no change. He underwent another treatment consisting of 60 days of 5000 IU of HCG every 4 days for 4 injections, then 2500 IU every 4 days for 4 injections, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. Still, no change. For the next 32 days, this subject received 5000 IU of HCG every other day for 6 injections, then 2500 IU every other day for 6 injections given with 150 IU of menotropins, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex 2 times per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=9.8IU/L, Test=507 ng/dl.(20)
Comments: The authors of this paper have presented some very interesting data that the medical community needs to learn from. When dealing with former androgen users, there may be better ways to increase Testosterone than the standard patch treatment (which will only prolong the problem of decreased T production.) Hypogonadal former androgen users need a treatment, not a band-aid. If you need to jump start your Testosterone after an androgen cycle, this combination of HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex may be just what the doctor ordered."
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