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ok so I don't have to post this a 100 times, this is for everybody that was wondering about transdermals.
One important thing to remember when brewing transdermals
THIS IS GOING INTO YOUR BODY SO KEEP THE PRODUCT AS STERILE AS POSSIBLE. IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET A INFECTION or A RASH.
This transdermal is the best:
Phlojel is the best. Can be mixed in a concentration of up to 200mg/ml. With this gel 1mg=1ml roughly.
Ok to be able to make it this strong you need to finely crush the powder and make it into a paste with some everclear. Don't mix to much everclear though to were it is runny.Then mix it with the jel.
Ok as far as which compounds work best with transdermals: any base product or any product that has a molecular weight of or around 270. Never us a compound with a weight above 350. If you can't get base products there are ways of deesterfing(sp?) the product but I'm not going into that here.
Products that work well with this:test base, tren base, deca base, bold base, 1-test base, 4ad, 4OH.
This gel has a absobancy rate between 30-50%. When doing your compounds always assume 33%. This makes it easy to dose properly plus it is going to make sure you are getting enough of the compounds. This would mean that if you made the compound 150mg/ml that for every one ml rubbed in your skin you are getting 50mg of the product in your system.
Cycle length- 6-8 weeks do to these products being bases they are hitting the system within hours.
dasages- Remember that you are dealing with products with no ester weight. Thus dosages must be adjusted accordigly. Do a search on ester weights, I'm not doing this for you. Your doses should be broken into at least to different applications, three is better. As far as being able to dose correctly order the 60ml syringes from the site. Take the plunger off and shove the gel in the back of the syringe. Put the plunger back on and work all the air out.
where and when to apply: apply while in the shower because this opens the pores up because of the hot water.(make sure you don't get water in the gel). Apply to any shaven area. The backs of the hands and the top of the feet are best.
here is basskiller's nasal spray formula:
Here is a way of making it into a nasal spray.
From Anabolic Extreme.
The Trenbolone Nasal >Spray
In addition to your androgen, you are also going to need the following:
Acetone - 99%
Isopropyl alcohol - 99%
Propylene Glycol - 99%
( All of which can easily and affordably be obtained from an internet chemical company).
A couple of coffee filters.
A metered nasal spray pump (NatruVent, Nostrilla, etc.)
A dosing cup or syringe (or anything else that can be used to measure to the nearest ml)
The procedure:
1. Take your Finaplix and dissolve it in the acetone at 50mg/ml. After the pellets have fully dissolved
(This will take 10 minutes or so), an off-white powder will have begun to collect at the bottom of the container --
these are the binders and such. Your androgen is now in solution.
2. Pour the liquid through the coffee filter - leaving behind the undesirables, and leaving you with pure androgen
dissolved in acetone.
3. Allow the acetone to evaporate - this will take several hours, depending on the surface area exposed to air
and the total amount of acetone employed. Trenbolone has a reputation for being a rather unstable molecule --
I don't know if this is true or if it is merely bodybuilding lore that has been repeated until it is accepted as fact --
nonetheless, you might want to store it dark place while you wait for evaporation to take place. After it has evaporated,
the trenbolone will be a yellowy crust at the bottom of whatever container you used.
4. Next add your propylene glycol (PG) in whatever amount will give your desired concentration
(I suggest 40-50mg/ml) + an additional 20%, as some of it will evaporate during step 6. The PG will not dissolve the
trenbolone, so...
5. Add isopropyl alcohol at a concentration of 1 ml/25mg. Stir it up a bit and it will dissolve --
this may take half an hour. The alcohol will also help ensure sterility.
6. Allow it to sit until the isopropyl alcohol evaporates, leaving you with trenbolone dissolved in
propylene glycol -- which will evaporate much more slowly.
(NOTE: Make sure all the alcohol has evaporated or it will burn like hell upon use)
If you are certain the alcohol has evaporated, and you still have too much propylene glycol remaining --
let it evaporate some more. Check it every 5-6 hours to make sure not too much evaporates,
otherwise the trenbolone will come out of solution, and you will have to add some more isopropanol
and start over again.
7. Add 1 part water for every 2 parts propylene glycol as pure PG is a bit too thick to produce a proper mist.
8. Next, empty out your nasal spray bottle and replace the contents with your newly created androgen/propylene glycol/water solution.
9. Stick up your nose and squirt.
10.Repeat every 3 hours or so.
I should, at this point, mention that propylene glycol burns the nasal passages a bit --
it will feel, for 10 seconds or so, the way it feels when you get water up your nose when swimming.
This is not at all intolerable, for this reason,
I do not recommend trying to use it enough to make it your lone androgen,
but rather a way to add 20-30mg (I would estimate 50% absorption,
so this would be 8-10 squirts/nostril) per day to a stack --
either other illicit androgens or a topical/nasal prohormone.
Also, if you have had problems with irritation using the Cyclodiol nasal homebrew,
this will be worse, so I would advise against using it in your nose. Instead, use it as a sublingual --
you can use the metered nasal spray for the best accuracy, and
I would expect that you would still get pretty decent absorption. Step 7 should be omitted if you choose
this route of administration.
here is basskiller's transdermals recipe:
Transdermal Method
By basskiller at **********************.com
DMSO
Dimethyl Sulfoxide this used for a transdermal carrier.
Dimethyl Sulfoxide is a clear liquid known for its ability to permeate living tissue.
It is believed to help stimulate cellular processes.
Common dosages
2-3 pellets daily FINELY crushed(a flour consistancy), then added to about 1 table spoon of DMSO.
DMSO and odor
Some have complained about a garlic odor on their breath and eminating from where it is applied.
Places to apply the mixture
Anywhere there are small capilliaries close to the top of the skin.
Ankles, back of your knees, inside of your thighs and elbows, etc.
How long do I used it for
Common lenth of a cycle is 6 to 8 weeks.
How to apply the mixture
Apply it in a massaging motion. Gently rub it into the area of your choice in a circular motion.
After you have rubbed it in, then wrap the area with Saran wrap.
The best time to do this is at night, right before you go to bed.
Who wants to run around with Saran wrap on them all day
Fina dick
Although there is no scientific proof of this effecting your sex drive,
many people complain that it has. In a negative way.
DMSO irratation
Another side effect is skin irratation. Some have developed dry red skin, with little bumps.
Others have had no problem in this area. Chalk this one up to some people have allergies others don't!
Should I use the gel or liquid form
Either or, One is no better than the other in effectiveness.
It's just that the liquid tends to make more of a mess than the gel, thats all.
One important thing to remember when brewing transdermals
THIS IS GOING INTO YOUR BODY SO KEEP THE PRODUCT AS STERILE AS POSSIBLE. IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET A INFECTION or A RASH.
This transdermal is the best:
Phlojel is the best. Can be mixed in a concentration of up to 200mg/ml. With this gel 1mg=1ml roughly.
Ok to be able to make it this strong you need to finely crush the powder and make it into a paste with some everclear. Don't mix to much everclear though to were it is runny.Then mix it with the jel.
Ok as far as which compounds work best with transdermals: any base product or any product that has a molecular weight of or around 270. Never us a compound with a weight above 350. If you can't get base products there are ways of deesterfing(sp?) the product but I'm not going into that here.
Products that work well with this:test base, tren base, deca base, bold base, 1-test base, 4ad, 4OH.
This gel has a absobancy rate between 30-50%. When doing your compounds always assume 33%. This makes it easy to dose properly plus it is going to make sure you are getting enough of the compounds. This would mean that if you made the compound 150mg/ml that for every one ml rubbed in your skin you are getting 50mg of the product in your system.
Cycle length- 6-8 weeks do to these products being bases they are hitting the system within hours.
dasages- Remember that you are dealing with products with no ester weight. Thus dosages must be adjusted accordigly. Do a search on ester weights, I'm not doing this for you. Your doses should be broken into at least to different applications, three is better. As far as being able to dose correctly order the 60ml syringes from the site. Take the plunger off and shove the gel in the back of the syringe. Put the plunger back on and work all the air out.
where and when to apply: apply while in the shower because this opens the pores up because of the hot water.(make sure you don't get water in the gel). Apply to any shaven area. The backs of the hands and the top of the feet are best.
here is basskiller's nasal spray formula:
Here is a way of making it into a nasal spray.
From Anabolic Extreme.
The Trenbolone Nasal >Spray
In addition to your androgen, you are also going to need the following:
Acetone - 99%
Isopropyl alcohol - 99%
Propylene Glycol - 99%
( All of which can easily and affordably be obtained from an internet chemical company).
A couple of coffee filters.
A metered nasal spray pump (NatruVent, Nostrilla, etc.)
A dosing cup or syringe (or anything else that can be used to measure to the nearest ml)
The procedure:
1. Take your Finaplix and dissolve it in the acetone at 50mg/ml. After the pellets have fully dissolved
(This will take 10 minutes or so), an off-white powder will have begun to collect at the bottom of the container --
these are the binders and such. Your androgen is now in solution.
2. Pour the liquid through the coffee filter - leaving behind the undesirables, and leaving you with pure androgen
dissolved in acetone.
3. Allow the acetone to evaporate - this will take several hours, depending on the surface area exposed to air
and the total amount of acetone employed. Trenbolone has a reputation for being a rather unstable molecule --
I don't know if this is true or if it is merely bodybuilding lore that has been repeated until it is accepted as fact --
nonetheless, you might want to store it dark place while you wait for evaporation to take place. After it has evaporated,
the trenbolone will be a yellowy crust at the bottom of whatever container you used.
4. Next add your propylene glycol (PG) in whatever amount will give your desired concentration
(I suggest 40-50mg/ml) + an additional 20%, as some of it will evaporate during step 6. The PG will not dissolve the
trenbolone, so...
5. Add isopropyl alcohol at a concentration of 1 ml/25mg. Stir it up a bit and it will dissolve --
this may take half an hour. The alcohol will also help ensure sterility.
6. Allow it to sit until the isopropyl alcohol evaporates, leaving you with trenbolone dissolved in
propylene glycol -- which will evaporate much more slowly.
(NOTE: Make sure all the alcohol has evaporated or it will burn like hell upon use)
If you are certain the alcohol has evaporated, and you still have too much propylene glycol remaining --
let it evaporate some more. Check it every 5-6 hours to make sure not too much evaporates,
otherwise the trenbolone will come out of solution, and you will have to add some more isopropanol
and start over again.
7. Add 1 part water for every 2 parts propylene glycol as pure PG is a bit too thick to produce a proper mist.
8. Next, empty out your nasal spray bottle and replace the contents with your newly created androgen/propylene glycol/water solution.
9. Stick up your nose and squirt.
10.Repeat every 3 hours or so.
I should, at this point, mention that propylene glycol burns the nasal passages a bit --
it will feel, for 10 seconds or so, the way it feels when you get water up your nose when swimming.
This is not at all intolerable, for this reason,
I do not recommend trying to use it enough to make it your lone androgen,
but rather a way to add 20-30mg (I would estimate 50% absorption,
so this would be 8-10 squirts/nostril) per day to a stack --
either other illicit androgens or a topical/nasal prohormone.
Also, if you have had problems with irritation using the Cyclodiol nasal homebrew,
this will be worse, so I would advise against using it in your nose. Instead, use it as a sublingual --
you can use the metered nasal spray for the best accuracy, and
I would expect that you would still get pretty decent absorption. Step 7 should be omitted if you choose
this route of administration.
here is basskiller's transdermals recipe:
Transdermal Method
By basskiller at **********************.com
DMSO
Dimethyl Sulfoxide this used for a transdermal carrier.
Dimethyl Sulfoxide is a clear liquid known for its ability to permeate living tissue.
It is believed to help stimulate cellular processes.
Common dosages
2-3 pellets daily FINELY crushed(a flour consistancy), then added to about 1 table spoon of DMSO.
DMSO and odor
Some have complained about a garlic odor on their breath and eminating from where it is applied.
Places to apply the mixture
Anywhere there are small capilliaries close to the top of the skin.
Ankles, back of your knees, inside of your thighs and elbows, etc.
How long do I used it for
Common lenth of a cycle is 6 to 8 weeks.
How to apply the mixture
Apply it in a massaging motion. Gently rub it into the area of your choice in a circular motion.
After you have rubbed it in, then wrap the area with Saran wrap.
The best time to do this is at night, right before you go to bed.
Who wants to run around with Saran wrap on them all day
Fina dick
Although there is no scientific proof of this effecting your sex drive,
many people complain that it has. In a negative way.
DMSO irratation
Another side effect is skin irratation. Some have developed dry red skin, with little bumps.
Others have had no problem in this area. Chalk this one up to some people have allergies others don't!
Should I use the gel or liquid form
Either or, One is no better than the other in effectiveness.
It's just that the liquid tends to make more of a mess than the gel, thats all.
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