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    Comparison of the effects of cabergoline and bromocriptine on prolactin levels in hyperprolactinemic patients.

    Sabuncu T, Arikan E, Tasan E, Hatemi H.

    Harran University, Medical Faculty, Department of Endocrinology and Metabolism, Sanliurfa, Turkey.

    OBJECTIVE: It is well known that bromocriptine has a suppressive effect on the prolactin release in hyperprolactinemic patients. But it also has some adverse effects. The new, long-acting dopaminergic drug, cabergoline, has been reported to be an effective agent in these patients. However, there are relatively few reports comparing the beneficial and adverse effects of these drugs in the treatment of hyperprolactinemic patients. Therefore, here we studied and compared the efficacy and tolerability of cabergoline with bromocriptine in hyperprolactinemic patients. PATIENTS: Seventeen patients (7 with microprolactinoma, 4 with macroprolactinoma, 6 with idiopathic hyperprolactinemia) were given bromocriptine at a dose of 2.5 mg (or 5 mg for macroprolactinomas) twice daily, and 17 patients (8 with microprolactinoma, 4 with macroprolactinoma, 5 with idiopathic hyperprolactinemia) were given cabergoline at a dose of 0.5 mg twice weekly for 12 weeks. RESULTS: At the end of the study, the prolactin reduction was significantly greater in the cabergoline group than in the bromocriptine group (-93 vs. -87.5 %, respectively, p < 0.05). Normalization of prolactin levels was achieved in 10 of 17 patients (59%) in the bromocriptine group, and in 14 of 17 patients (82%) in the cabergoline group (p = 0.13). Two patients (50%) with macroprolactinoma in the bromocriptine group and three patients (75%) with macroprolactinoma in the cabergoline group demonstrated a normalization of their serum prolactin levels. Adverse events were noted in 53% of bromocriptine patients and in 12% of cabergoline patients (p < 0.01). CONCLUSION: These data indicate that cabergoline is a very effective agent for lowering the prolactin levels in hyperprolactinemic patients and that it appears to offer considerable advantage over bromocriptine in terms of efficacy and tolerability.

    Publication Types:
    · Clinical Trial
    · Randomized Controlled Trial

    PMID: 11579944 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


    Ok, this study is basically a comparison between bromocriptine and Cabergoline. Both Ergot derrivatives and Dopamine
    Agonists. Bromo being V1.0 and Cabergoline being V2.0 in that regard.
    Normally, hyper-prolactinaemic levels are achieved in men/women when they run progestinic based AAS. i.e. Deca, Anadrol amd
    Fina.
    This is where Cabergoline comes in. It is an extremely good prolactin inhibitor...... 93% prolactin reduction(see study)..
    Better than Bromo(87.5%).
    High Prolactin levels are also directly linked with male fertility problems. I.e. High prolactin levels = HPTA shut down(in prett much all cases).

    Hypogonadism of male prolactinomas: relation to pulsatile secretion of LH.

    Saitoh Y, Arita N, Hayakawa T, Onishi T, Koga M, Mori S, Mogami H.

    Department of Neurosurgery, Osaka University Medical School, Japan.

    In order to investigate whether a hypothalamic disorder cause hypogonadism in male prolactinomas, LH pulsatile secretion was studied in 13 male patients. Serum PRL levels ranged from 186 to 45,000 ng ml-1 before treatment, and all the tumors were macroadenomas. Reduced LH secretion was revealed in 5 of 13 patients, and FSH was reduced in 1 of 13. Serum testosterone (T) levels were lower than the normal limit in all the patients. *** tests in 3 patients showed good responses, but the peak values of T were lower than those of normal men. LH pulsatilities were examined in 5 hyperprolactinemic patients before treatment, in 4 hyperprolactinemic patients after operation, and in 8 normoprolactinemic patients after operation and/or bromocriptine treatment. There was no significant difference of the mean LH values, the frequencies of LH pulses, and amplitudes among the hyperprolactinemic patients before operation (n = 5), the normoprolactinemic patients after operation (n = 8), and normal men (n = 7). From these results, it was evident that the hypothalamus and pituitary function of male prolactinomas were well preserved, in spite of higher serum PRL levels and larger tumor size than those reported in females.

    It is suggested that the main cause of hypogonadism in these patients is due to testicular dysfunction resulting from excessive serum PRL.

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    • #17
      The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism Vol. 87, No. 10 4447-4451
      Copyright © 2002 by The Endocrine Society

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      CLINICAL CASE SEMINAR

      "The Novel Use of Very High Doses of Cabergoline and a Combination of Testosterone and an Aromatase Inhibitor in the Treatment of a Giant Prolactinoma"

      Mary P. Gillam, Stewart Middler, Daniel J. Freed and Mark E. Molitch

      Division of Endocrinology, Metabolism, and Look! I'm a nut job! Medicine (M.P.G., M.E.M.), Northwestern University, The Feinberg Medical School, Chicago, Illinois 60611; and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center (S.M.), University of California at Los Angeles School of Medicine, Los Angeles, California 90048

      Abstract

      Most prolactinomas respond rapidly to low doses of dopamine agonists. Occasionally, stepwise increases in doses of these agents are needed to achieve gradual prolactin (PRL) reductions. Approximately 50% of treated men remain hypogonadal, yet testosterone replacement may stimulate hyperprolactinemia.

      A 34-yr-old male with a pituitary macroadenoma was found to have a PRL level of 10,362 µg/liter and testosterone level of 3.5 nmol/liter. Eleven months of dopamine agonist therapy at standard doses lowered PRL levels to 299 µg/liter. Subsequent stepwise increases in cabergoline (3 mg daily) further lowered PRL levels to 71 µg/liter, but hypogonadism persisted. Initiation of testosterone replacement resulted in a rise and discontinuation in a fall of PRL levels. Aromatization of exogenous testosterone to estradiol and subsequent estrogen-stimulated PRL release was suspected. Concomitant use of cabergoline with the aromatase inhibitor anastrozole after resuming testosterone replacement resulted in the maintenance of testosterone levels and restoration of normal sexual function, without increasing PRL. Ultimately, further reduction in PRL on this therapy permitted endogenous testosterone production. Thus, novel pharmacological maneuvers may permit successful medical treatment of some patients with invasive macroprolactinomas.

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      Drug Name: Dostinex Tablets (cabergoline tablets)
      The following information is obtained from various newswires, published medical journal articles, and medical conference presentations.



      Company: Pharmacia & Upjohn
      Approval Status: Approved January 1997
      Treatment for: hyperprolactinemic disorders



      General Information
      Dostinex has been approved for the treatment of hyperprolactinemic disorders, either idiopathic or due to pituitary adenomas (tumors).

      Clinical Results
      In a clinical trial involving approximately 450 subjects, Dostinex was compared with bromocriptine in treating hyperporlactinemia. In the eight-week, double blind trial, prolactin levels returned to normal in 77% of subjects treated with Dostinex (0.5mg twice weekly) compared to 59% of those treated with bromocriptine (2.5 mg twice-daily). Restoration of menses occurred in 77% of women treated with Dostinex, compared to 70% of those treated with bromocriptine.

      Among subjects with galactorrhea (excessive breast milk discharge), the symptom disappeared in 73% of those treated with Dostinex, compared to 56% of 231 subjects taking bromocriptine.

      Side Effects
      Clinical studies also showed the safety profile of Dostinex compares favorably to bromocriptine. Two percent of 221 subjects taking Dostinex discontinued treatment due to side effects during the eight-week study, versus six percent of 231 subjects taking bromocriptine.

      Nausea is the most common side effect of both drugs. During the eight-week, double-blinded portion of the trial, 29% of subjects experienced nausea with Dostinex compared with 43% of those taking bromocriptine.

      Dostinex is contraindicated in subjects with uncontrolled hypertension or known hypersensitivity to ergot derivatives.

      Additional Information
      Hyperprolactinemia is usually caused by a benign tumor on the pituitary gland that results in excess production of prolactin, the hormone that controls lactation. Doctors treat from 70,000 to 100,000 patients with the condition each year, the vast majority of whom are women. It most commonly affects women between the ages of 20 to 50 and can cause cessation of menstruation, excessive milk discharge and infertility. In men, the condition can cause decreased libido and impotence.

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      • #18
        YJ, very nice info bro!

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        • #19
          um........a lot of reading,thanks jim.
          the number one chinese dj in the whole mutha fukin world"dj tommy" from hongkong you all......

          shout out to...hong kong bodybuilding association

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          • #20
            Originally posted by hongkongguy
            um........a lot of reading,thanks jim.
            i will fix that for ya...."thanks YJ"........he posted thge studies and such

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            • #21
              Wish I could help, but my sources don't carry it. Seems to be a new one...so hold tight.

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              • #22
                You can buy legal 'alternatives' at various places on the net.

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                • #23
                  Anyone that posts on boards that we know ? Not research, Animals, or Mr, T's.

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                  • #24
                    If you're asking for a source, Ill be happy to take your money.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by YellowJacket
                      If you're asking for a source, Ill be happy to take your money.
                      Yes please! I have a couple Grand for the YellowJacket foundation.

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                      • #26
                        DOSTINEX (Cabergoline)
                        Purpose of medication and method of action: Dostinex is indicated for the treatment of excess production of prolactin either due to idiopathic causes or to pituitary tumors. This tumor occurs mostly in women. It appears to be a more effective alternative to bromocryptine with a return to normal prolactin levels experienced by 77% of patients.

                        Side effects: Side effects are rare with nausea (29%) being the most common.

                        Drug Interactions: Dostinex should not be used in those sensitive to ergot _ like derivatives.

                        Cautions and Contraindications: Use with caution in patients with difficulty controlling hypertension.

                        Usual Dose: 0.5 mg two times a week.

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                        Sorry bro, haven't heard of anyone carrying this yet..

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                        • #27
                          use this thread to put studies or info about dostinex, as i will put it together into a faq later with all the info we gather here and from other threads. but do not put sources in the thread or openly post them! GU has said this is not allowed as well!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by bigjim33
                            bro we don't open post sources....even if it is for non-scheduled items.....the boss makes the rules, sorry
                            i buy my celltech and nitroteach from gnc :p

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by alwayzgrowing
                              i buy my celltech and nitroteach from gnc :p

                              BANNED!!!!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by alwayzgrowing
                                i buy my celltech and nitroteach from gnc :p
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