First Cycle Advice

[Dblock]

I got my first cycle lined up. Just Test. Enth. at 500mg a week, 10 weeks. I have done lots of research and always find mixed opinions on PCT, clen, T3, L-dex, etc.

I want to put on some mass, but want it to be lean. Was thinking about throwing in some EQ but I was advised against this since it is my first cycle. I know that fat gain is going to happen with this cycle but I want to keep it to a minimum. I'm going to eat very clean but I know I have to eat a lot.

So should I run T3 during the cycle. I heard if you do a very small dose through out the cycle it keeps your metabolism up and doesn't shut down your thyroid. Also should I use the clen 2 on and 2 off. It is suppose to enhance the steroids and might keep some fat off. I will use it PCT for sure ( I have tons of this stuff).

For PCT I have Nolva and a little Clomid left. I read mixed opinions on PCT and running just Nolva, they said it isn't that great for recovery, just prevention of estrogen side effects. What are your thoughts. No HCG because the cycle isn't that long and read it isn't really that necessary (mixed opinions on this subject too).

I also got some l-dex, .25mg ED is optimum? Nolva as needed during cycle.

Any advice, suggestions, thoughts? Thanks!

[HungarianBeast]

Re: First Cycle Advice

Enanthate 500mg per week.
Don't worry about adding EQ for your first. Test only!
L-dex .25mg per week.

I personally like nolva only for PCT. 60mg ed for 10 days, 40mg ed x 10days, 20mg ed x 10days.

I HATE clomid.

NO T3! NO CLEN.

[Dblock]

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Yea, I heard Clomid has crappy side effects. What about Clen PC?

That L-dex you meant .25mg per day, not week, right?

[Got Gear?]

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I agree with test only for 1st cycle.

If you want to avoid water weight, then .25mg ED of liquidex would be a great option like mentioned above.

However, I would stick to clomid for PCT. Nolva is an anti-estrogen only, and while it will work for PCT I think clomid would work better. I would suggest trying clomid, and if you experience any side effects, then switch over to Nolva. But either way will work.

[HungarianBeast]

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If you have a girlfriend or wife, warn them the day before you try clomid. They may not understand what is wrong with you...

[bowbow]

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I agree in at least trying clomid. Clomid does'nt affect me badly at all it works well for me.

[mick-G]

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Try the aromasin at 12.5mg eod for the bloat. Its better on lipids/cholesterol.

[Biggathanu]

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I like this as a first cycle. Too many people are trying to throw 2-3 ingredients into their cycle. Take advantage of this while you can, because you'll need the money for later cycles

[edvedr]

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if you use nolva during pct with clomid you shouldn't have those nasty sides that clomid gives you.
PCT
clomid--300-100-50
nolva 20mgs ed
and you can even keep running the ldex at .25 ED till the end of pct.

[chaos]

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here is some good advice. i will NEVER post without clomid. i always run nolva too and never have bad sides.

test enen 500mg EW, and some dbol 35mg ED for the first 4wks. adex at .5mg EOD throughout. nolva on hand. start pct 2weeks after last test inject, just like Edvedr suggested. but i would only run the dex for the first week of pct, to prevent estrogen rebound....it is supressive to the hpta.

if you use nolva during pct with clomid you shouldn't have those nasty sides that clomid gives you.
PCT
clomid--300-100-50
nolva 20mgs ed
and you can even keep running the ldex at .25 ED till the end of pct.

[Dblock]

Re: First Cycle Advice

if you use nolva during pct with clomid you shouldn't have those nasty sides that clomid gives you.
PCT
clomid--300-100-50
nolva 20mgs ed
and you can even keep running the ldex at .25 ED till the end of pct.

Is that "300-100-50" mean 300mg a day for week, 100mg a day for a week, 50mg a day for a week?

Also I have some old liquid clomid that is about 4 months old and it is all cloudy and has chunky stuff. Is it still good and how long does clomid last?

[chaos]

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go 300 for 1 day then 100 for 10days and 50 for the last ten

Is that "300-100-50" mean 300mg a day for week, 100mg a day for a week, 50mg a day for a week?

Also I have some old liquid clomid that is about 4 months old and it is all cloudy and has chunky stuff. Is it still good and how long does clomid last?

[Dblock]

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Cool. I was gonna say, that is a lot of clomid. Thanks for the advice guys!