prices for gh

[SMILEY FACE]

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i'am taking so far 4 ius a day abnd weekend off and no prob at all....

[someday]

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I believe i read somewhere that Lilly says 6iu ed for a person 200lb and over, but it is for low growth syndrone, so i don't know how that would effect an adult without the growth problem. It is always a good idea to start low, but not too low to not see results and go up every few wks if there is no progress. Since iam 190lb i would start with 4iu and if i had neg sides id lower to 3iu and so on, until i reach a happy medium. I have also heard that running it 7 days a wk is the best for results if you can afford to do it, but you can get by on taking wk ends off.

Mick is dead on about the 7 day/week protocol. I've said this before and no one could come up with any proof otherwise....there is NO benefit to taking weekends off EXCEPT to your wallet! This myth seems to be now permeating boards everywhere. Not one single study/article I've read suggested taking weekends off or were run in that manner.

[edvedr]

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since u had said that i changed my mind....i will be runnin it 7 days a week

[skeer126]

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im 210 13-14 %bf 5'11.....training for 5 years...the last 3 really strong havnt missed days unless i feel like i needed it...im 21...i used to be 135 before i started experimenting with ph's and juice....this is my third cycle....and ive been on for 5 months now....i get blood tests regularly but will be coming off shortly because ive been pumping too much juice and think my body will respond better if i give it proper pct and wait about 2 months...throughout this cycle ive been using evertyhting under the sun including prop tren E..eq cyp test400..and dbols....all in the proper way and various dosages just dont feel like typing out the weeks....i feel my body is at the point where im taking too much juice and wanna see how gh will werkfor me and hopefully put on some new muscle cells so i can fill them out..i still have a skinyn frame but my muscle covers it....wanna also see if it gives me more of a that freaky look im going for....i will be running it next cycle ...o and by the way id really appreciate no flames saying im too young for it...if u wanna be honest and maybe say do a couple more cycles then id love to hear ure opinions and state y but i believe im ready and know my shit...its become my life and im hoping to compete within the next couple years or so

First of all what are your stats, age, and training history?

[firstenrgy]

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Mick is dead on about the 7 day/week protocol. I've said this before and no one could come up with any proof otherwise....there is NO benefit to taking weekends off EXCEPT to your wallet! This myth seems to be now permeating boards everywhere. Not one single study/article I've read suggested taking weekends off or were run in that manner.

I'm not trying to be a jerk but I don't agree. Lets start with what we might agree on... If you give your body something in abundance, it will use it less effiiciently, right. Drink too much water, you will urinate more frequently. So something to consider is if you use GH at levels 2,3 or 4 times normal, it is safe to assume that your body will decrease natural GH production. You are right in that there are no studies on this... lets think why? Most GH is SOLD for kids with short stature or for AIDS patients. Why would there be studies on the benefits of 5 on 2 off for bodybuilders? I have doctor who is a gearhead and "from his experience" not my words, he noticed that year round 7 day a week GH users had permanently affected IGF levels after coming off. This was not the case with people doing 5 on 2 off. So IMO, even if your wallet can afford it, go with 5 on 2 off just to be safe. The other alternative is not to listen to my reccomendation and do 7 on for a while. If you ever run out of money, call me as you wither away.
firstenrgy

[skeer126]

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yea ive also read about the 5/2 or 6/1 split just so u can give ure pituitary a chance to make some on its own just so it doesnt shut down completely...if u dont ure basically sending a signal saying that we dont u(ure pit gland) to make nemore and im sure after a while especilly how some people stay on all year long that this will eventually take a toll...i read on article somewhere on it..ill try and find it

[bowbow]

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yea ive also read about the 5/2 or 6/1 split just so u can give ure pituitary a chance to make some on its own just so it doesnt shut down completely...if u dont ure basically sending a signal saying that we dont u(ure pit gland) to make nemore and im sure after a while especilly how some people stay on all year long that this will eventually take a toll...i read on article somewhere on it..ill try and find it

I like to read this article if you can find it.

[edvedr]

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I'm not trying to be a jerk but I don't agree. Lets start with what we might agree on... If you give your body something in abundance, it will use it less effiiciently, right. Drink too much water, you will urinate more frequently. So something to consider is if you use GH at levels 2,3 or 4 times normal, it is safe to assume that your body will decrease natural GH production. You are right in that there are no studies on this... lets think why? Most GH is SOLD for kids with short stature or for AIDS patients. Why would there be studies on the benefits of 5 on 2 off for bodybuilders? I have doctor who is a gearhead and "from his experience" not my words, he noticed that year round 7 day a week GH users had permanently affected IGF levels after coming off. This was not the case with people doing 5 on 2 off. So IMO, even if your wallet can afford it, go with 5 on 2 off just to be safe. The other alternative is not to listen to my reccomendation and do 7 on for a while. If you ever run out of money, call me as you wither away.
firstenrgy

hmmm looks like its time for me to do some more research then

[mick-G]

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If i were you Skeer, id do at least 4iu ed 7day a wk. Because of your body weight, training history etc. i think that you would be wasting your $ on 2iu ed especially if your going to take wkends off. If you can not afford to do it right, then wait till you can. Taking week ends off has been implyed by ppl that cant afford to do it 7 days. Allthough you may see results it will not be as effective. Also Firstenrgy, we are talking about 4-6 month cycles not yr round ones. You have to calculate your weight when taking gh. I might add that we do not know the background on your steroid Dr., also I have personally known drs that are into bodybuilding and in my experience most are not forthcoming in what they have done in the past. He may be drawing up conclusions based on his own experiences with aas and not case studies.

[someday]

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No offense to you either firstenrgy, but I'll stick with published reports and studies done by real physicians/researchers who are footnoted at the bottom of the study than a friend of a friend who is "in the know".

[skeer126]

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well the way i figure it is my gh levels r pretty high right now considering my age so i thought less might be better.....i will be doing it soon and im gonna start at 2 iu's and see how my body responds...if i need i will werk up to 4 iu's...u said that it sepends on bw too which i can believe and considering i feel like im aat a plateu and need some big things i think i will werk my way up to 4 if the sides r low...i will be using jino so ive heard really good things about it....i heard people getting some sides at 2 iu's so well see how i respond to it..thanks for the responses guys....

If i were you Skeer, id do at least 4iu ed 7day a wk. Because of your body weight, training history etc. i think that you would be wasting your $ on 2iu ed especially if your going to take wkends off. If you can not afford to do it right, then wait till you can. Taking week ends off has been implyed by ppl that cant afford to do it 7 days. Allthough you may see results it will not be as effective. Also Firstenrgy, we are talking about 4-6 month cycles not yr round ones. You have to calculate your weight when taking gh. I might add that we do not know the background on your steroid Dr., also I have personally known drs that are into bodybuilding and in my experience most are not forthcoming in what they have done in the past. He may be drawing up conclusions based on his own experiences with aas and not case studies.

[MaxSwells]

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Bro, 210 on a 5'11 frame with 13%bf...is still big size...y u say u have a skinny frame?

im 210 13-14 %bf 5'11.....training for 5 years...the last 3 really strong havnt missed days unless i feel like i needed it...im 21...i used to be 135 before i started experimenting with ph's and juice....this is my third cycle....and ive been on for 5 months now....i get blood tests regularly but will be coming off shortly because ive been pumping too much juice and think my body will respond better if i give it proper pct and wait about 2 months...throughout this cycle ive been using evertyhting under the sun including prop tren E..eq cyp test400..and dbols....all in the proper way and various dosages just dont feel like typing out the weeks....i feel my body is at the point where im taking too much juice and wanna see how gh will werkfor me and hopefully put on some new muscle cells so i can fill them out..i still have a skinyn frame but my muscle covers it....wanna also see if it gives me more of a that freaky look im going for....i will be running it next cycle ...o and by the way id really appreciate no flames saying im too young for it...if u wanna be honest and maybe say do a couple more cycles then id love to hear ure opinions and state y but i believe im ready and know my shit...its become my life and im hoping to compete within the next couple years or so

[skeer126]

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yea im not gonna lie i aint skinny....my bone structure is kinda skinny....like the muscle kinda just covers it..its hard to explain..i was that guy a few years ago who was the skinniest kid around...and now im up there wit the biggest..in 3 years i put on like 80 pounds due to my steroid use and now i just feel like im gonna need something else to maybe see better gains without raising my steroid doses through the roof ya know?...see if i can trigger some new msucle growth wit the gh....

[firstenrgy]

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No offense to you either firstenrgy, but I'll stick with published reports and studies done by real physicians/researchers who are footnoted at the bottom of the study than a friend of a friend who is "in the know".

Someday... It is not a friend of a friend who is "in the know" He is a licensed physician who treats hundreds of AS users. If there are the extensive footnoted studies on GH use and bodybuilders, please post them. I am simply trying to give the board some information from a doctor who gets the benefit of viewing blood frofiles of numerous AS and GH users. I would think this is far more beneficial than the parroting of what we have heard time and time again on the boards? As you can see, I've been around a little while and read far more than I post. The bro's here have extensive knowledge so I ususly yield to their experience. This happens to be a subject I feel confident that I can give people some insight to. I hope this doesn't sound like a flame, its not
firstenrgy

[edvedr]

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your not flaming first, thanks for your info!!!