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  • #16
    Re: var

    This is fact. It will shut you down, but not that badly that your own body cant recover on its own using some trib and your regular supplements. You can do either way, or go with Johnny. It is up to you.

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by big_mike1979
      johnnyb, u don't need pct it is not as hard and will not shut u down at all , not trying to be wise or so, but i only do pct if i do orals like anadrol or dbol and i normally maintain my all my gains. for me pct is when orals are done ....
      No prob Bro, I've read a study that showed var shutting down the hpta at 5 or 10mg, so the dose he's going to do will shut him down, all gear shuts you down.

      The idea that it didn't shut you down is old school info that has since been shown to not be true. I'll see if I can find that study.

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      • #18
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        do that please , i thought that clen and var will never shut u down, only 2 drugs beside andriol gel tbs

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        • #19
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          that's what I thought

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          • #20
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            clen doesnt shut you down, but i agree with johnnyb on var doing it

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by big_mike1979
              do that please , i thought that clen and var will never shut u down, only 2 drugs beside andriol gel tbs
              Bro I can't find it, but how are clen, var and andriol in the same class. Clen is a drug for asthmatics, var is a drug senthisized from test and andriol is test. I know var is mild on the hpta but at 50mg ed it will for sure shut you down. I agree clen won't shut you down cause it not an AAS like var and andriol.

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              • #22
                Re: var

                its an AAS....why take the chance....guys do pct when they are doing m1t

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                • #23
                  Re: var

                  Would you run the same PCT as you would with a regular test cycle? Or would he back down the Clomid to just 50mg.\day for a couple weeks?
                  Do, or Do Not, There Is No Try!

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                  • #24
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                    Yeah, what Pit said. Also would it be better to run with some test?

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                    • #25
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                      kite i think anything is better off with test....i won't not use it...and if i do something alone it would be test alone...but thats just me....i don't know much about pct varying from weaker cycles to stronger ones....i'm curious myself....if it was me i would just run pct the same as always

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                      • #26
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                        run it regular

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                        • #27
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                          I've done Avar twice...150 tabs total...good shit for cutting...VERY VASCULAR look...but you can kiss that hairline Bye Bye....the shit is twice as bad then Winny....IMHO....there are better ways of cutting and looking vascular....cardio would be one of them as well as diet, when you have quality muscle....using Avar by itself to attain a certain look without having thickness first, is useless in my pinion, you really dont gain weight, yeah you'll see your veins, but it wont give you that thicker look that Winny does, nor the strength....

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                          • #28
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                            I shave my head anyway.

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                            • #29
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                              lol...best way to deal with baldness is to embrace it

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by kite
                                I shave my head anyway.
                                bald eagal

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