first cycle

[whosyourdadi]

what is a good first cycle... I have access to sustanon so is this something worth taking for a first cycle.... I also can get dbol.... im 21, 5'11", 190, 12% BF, want to get over 200, really want to hit about 210-215

[edvedr]

Re: first cycle

that would be a good first cycle...dbol 35mgs a day weeks 1-4.....sust 500mgs a week weeks 1-12....then clomid and nolva for pct......if u can a straight ester test instead go with that over the sust

[mick-G]

Re: first cycle

Id use long ester cypionate or enathate 400-500mg/wk for 10-12wks only, followed by pct of clomid 300-100-50 for 21 days or nolva.

[skeer126]

Re: first cycle

definatly dbols at 30-35 mg;s a day for 4 weeks..sustanon is widely abused for a first time cycle in my opinion...single acting test esters r a much better choice just to stabilize blood levels...but if sustanons all u can get...u will still like the results....throw some deca or eq in there with the right diet and training and 20 pounds is more than likely

[edvedr]

Re: first cycle

if he eats correctly i bet he will get his 20lbs without deca or eq......first cycle he will grow like a weed....so i would save adding an extra compound till later down the road...jmo

[Symbolic]

Re: first cycle

I agree with ed, first cycle..just go with some Test and the dbol. You will easily get 20 lbs. if you eat right!! Good luck bro!!

[cbr929]

Re: first cycle

I agree sust and dbol would be a fine first cycle 20lbs is a pretty safe bet to achieve with that cycle if diet and training is on but a single long ester such as Enan or CYp would be better just remember sust need to be shot at least E3D

[badasz32]

Re: first cycle

i would go 400-500mg a week of enth or cyp for 10-12 weeks, no d-bol, eq, or deca. its his first cycle and he should stick to test. i see no prblem gaining 20 pounds on test. but it wont all be muscle and you wont keep it all even with the best pct. if sust is all u can get shoot it 2 times per week, 250mg on monday and 250 on thursday.
followed by a good pct with nolva or clomid. it doesnt matter what u use if your diet, training, and rest are not tuned in.

[HungarianBeast]

Re: first cycle

if he eats correctly i bet he will get his 20lbs without deca or eq......first cycle he will grow like a weed....so i would save adding an extra compound till later down the road...jmo

If he eats correctly, he can get to 210 without gear as well. Then he could do a sust cycle and get to 225 or so...

[cbr929]

Re: first cycle

if sust is all u can get shoot it 2 times per week, 250mg on monday and 250 on thursday.
followed by a good pct with nolva or clomid. it doesnt matter what u use if your diet, training, and rest are not tuned in.

Why??? Because of the short esters in sust in needs to be shot at least every third day

[whosyourdadi]

Re: first cycle

If he eats correctly, he can get to 210 without gear as well. Then he could do a sust cycle and get to 225 or so...

about 5 months ago i got my eating and lifting in order, and i went from 175 to 190, but for the last month or two i havn't been gaining anything.... thats why i want to hit a cycle now.... so you don't have to take clomid or nolva til after week 12 right???

[edvedr]

Re: first cycle

start nolva and clomid at week 14.....make sure u have it before hand in case of gyno

[pigmeat]

Re: first cycle

400 mg a week of test e, or cyp. 1 shot a week. Easy, simple, and proven!
No dbol, or anything else needed. Save your money, and add something next time.

[badasz32]

Re: first cycle

i ment that he has to shoot it atleast 2 times per week, every 3rd day would work better and eod would be ideal but i dont think shooting eod for a first cycle is a good idea, too many sticks might turn him off to gear. He wouldnt want to waste the short esters like the prop by shooting once a week.

[SMILEY FACE]

Re: first cycle

wt enan/cypi, u can take 1 shoot and keep ur blood level stable but wt sus ever3 days u need to take a shot......
i agree what the crew said as well