Deca and Sus question

[rowland]

I have 10cc of Sus and a 10cc bottle of QV Deca. I was thinking about taking one of each for 10 weeks. Is this the best way to cycle it and what kind of gains should i expect. I'm 185lb, 5 10" and 13% bf.

[mick-G]

Re: Deca and Sus question

Id get a bottle more of each. What is the mg per ml of the sust?, cause Id at least run it Mon/Thur injects.

[rowland]

Re: Deca and Sus question

Sust is 250mg and Deca is 300mg

[mick-G]

Re: Deca and Sus question

If you can only run for ten wks definitely get at least one more bottle of sust minimum. On my last cycle i did the Karachi sust 250mg on Mon and Thursday and ran durabolin 100mg mon, thurs, and sat 150mg for a total of 350mg of the durabolin. For 12 wks. You can prob still get good results off 300mg/wk for ten wks with the deca, but with only 250mg/wk to use for the sust, i would get one more bottle and split it on mon/thurs if you can afford to get it. Sust should be injected at least e3d.

[HungarianBeast]

Re: Deca and Sus question

More test like mick says.

[djflex]

Re: Deca and Sus question

A good rule for deca is double your bodyweight in mg. As far as the sust in concerned, that should be hit twice a week. Some people double up and try only once a week, but there is too much time in between shots for the blood levels to vary. Get your entire cycle together in hand before starting to avoid running dry halfway thru.

[TSR1969]

Re: Deca and Sus question

I have 10cc of Sus and a 10cc bottle of QV Deca. I was thinking about taking one of each for 10 weeks. Is this the best way to cycle it and what kind of gains should i expect. I'm 185lb, 5 10" and 13% bf.

1st cycle? you can grow on a conservative dose like you suggest, split ur shots son/thurs like mick suggests, my first cycle was pretty close to yours, but i didnt want to stop and got prop and ran that to week 12, got about 20lbs. also, dont think you are going to get 10 1mg shots out of each bottle, figure on 9 and 9 weeks is a bit short to get the full benefit of deca, especially when it does not start to really kick in until about week 5. you also may want to consider hcg, even with a low dose of deca, it shut me down, would never run any long cycle again w/o hcg, but especially not one with deca or tren. you also should finish up with a short ester like prop, deca and sust have long clearance times. long times w/o test = lost gains.

you prone to gyno? if you dont know you would be better off having nolva on hand then trying to get it once gyno starts. what is your pct going to be? if you are going to add more test, save ur money and get enan or cyp, sust is overpriced and overrated for what you get.

and please dont be one of those guys that spends money on 2 bottles of gear, 1 syringe and that is it. always use a new syringe, they are cheap. you WILL need something for pct, and you need to have stuff on hand for sides (bloat and maybe gyno, figure bloat on this cycle for sure). aas can be run safe, you just need to take them correctly and have the knowledge, and access to what you need to take care of the sides and to recover from ur cycle.

make sure you eat right, lots of protein, lots of water, lots of sleep, dont overtrain, avoid junk foods and high salt foods, but if it comes between not eating at all or eating a big mac, eat the big mac, you need calories to grow.

[rowland]

Re: Deca and Sus question

This is my first cycle and i do not know if i am prone to gyno. I am going to try and more test like cyp and maype some prop to finish with.

thanks, Rowland

[SMILEY FACE]

Re: Deca and Sus question

i like doing 500 mg of sust and 300 of deca a week and slpit the sust on sat and wenesday. and u should be good

[blink]

Re: Deca and Sus question

Just a note, while I agree with evrything that's been suggested, I just want to add that if you do get gyno from Deca, Nolva will not help you at all. You will need either Bromocripitine or Dostinex.

This is another reason why some of us suggest a Test-only first cycle. You have an opportunity to find out whether or not you are gyno prone.

[TSR1969]

Re: Deca and Sus question

agreed, and while bromo may be easier to get and cheaper, its sides suck, def recomend cabaser

[RollPlayer]

Re: Deca and Sus question

Nice breakdown TSR.

500mg TEST (EN or CYP, or combo)
300mg-400mg DECA

Have Nolva and/or Clomid on hand. Have fun.

I'm on the exact program now. I seem to be gaining already (up 6lbs) and I'm only in my second week, after 3 months off.