Frontloading with HGH (?)

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I was talking to a bro about my upcoming cycle, and he has this idea that by NOT frontloading GH for one month at, say 2iu daily, I'll be robbing myself of some decent gains with my current cycle.

What he's saying, is that by starting with 2iu/ED for 30-60 days, it will give my body time to acclimate to exogenous GH. His opinion is that it will make it easier for my body to accept the higher dose without or with lessened side effects.

I was just about to send in the first poke, but, I figured I'd ask around here to get some input from some folks here who have run GH before or who know more about it than I do. This will be the first time for me.

Thanks bros/sisters!

Here's the cycle:

weeks 1-16 (at least) HGH @ 4iu daily
weeks 1-13 Test Prop @ 100mg EOD
weeks 1-6 Blue Heart Dbol @ 40mg ED
weeks 1-3 Nandrolone Phenylpropianate @ 100mg EOD
weeks 1-10 Test Cyp @ 500mg EW
weeks 1-10 Deca @ 250mg 2x/EW
weeks 11-13 Nandrolone Phenylpropianate @ 100mg EOD

Ancillaries:

weeks 1-7 Femara @ 2.5mg EOD
weeks 1-13 Dostinex @ 0.5 mg E4D

Diet:

Shooting for 5000 clean cals, 400+ grams protein ED

[edvedr]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

hmmm not sure bro.....i did gh with 2 seperate cycles a few years ago...but i have not even researched it since.....is he sayin to run HGH by itself before you start the rest of the cycle?? or is he sayin to up your dose in the begining

[blink]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

hmmm not sure bro.....i did gh with 2 seperate cycles a few years ago...but i have not even researched it since.....is he sayin to run HGH by itself before you start the rest of the cycle?? or is he sayin to up your dose in the begining

Sorry for not being clearer. What he's saying, is that before I begin the cycle that I posted above, I should run GH at 2iu ED for 30-60 days by itself.

[HungarianBeast]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

What would be your dose during the cycle?

[blink]

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4iu ED weeks 1-16

[edvedr]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

thats new to me but i'm far from an expert on HGH.....i actually had someone tell me to wait on the hgh till the longer esters start to kick in...but i never did i just ran it from start to finish.....as for the sides i don't think they should be bad at all at 4ius a day.....your twice my size and i did not get sides till i hit 5-6ius a day....that was too much for me.....4 was perfect......but i have no idea if what he says helps gains or not.....i'm curious cause i would like to run hgh in the future again

[blink]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

See, ED, that was my understanding - either frontload with a decent amount of short-acting Test, while the longer esters start to kick in, or wait until the longer esters kick in, say three weeks into the cycle. <shrug>

I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. This bro I'm referring to certainly knows his $h!t about GH - he's been running it for a few years, now. That doesn't make him right about this, though.

Thanks for your feedback, thus far, guys.

[HungarianBeast]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

Never read anything of the HGH frontload.

[blink]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

Crank, thanks, bro.

Now let me change the subject slighrly. You mentioned running T3 in conjunction with a cycle including GH.

Another member posted that he was running such a cycle with T3. I challenged him on that, because T3 does NOT discriminate between different tissue types, and will chew up muscle like there ain't no tomorrow! In fact, it's more likely to burn muscle in leaner folks (10%-12%)! His response was that he's done it before, with good results.

So, naturally, I'm very interested in the theory behind running T3 with a cycle including GH. What dosage/frequency are we talking about here?

I'm glad that I waited for all of your input before beginning, thanks again!

[blink]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

Thanks, Crank! Now, I see the logic behind taking T3 in conjunction with GH.

The proponderance of people that I've spoken to about fronting with GH, all say the same thing that you and others suggested here, and what my understanding had been.

I believe that I'll begin my cycle in the next 10 minutes, or so!!!

[bowbow]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

I've been researching HGH alot lately myself as I plan on trying some in the near future and Have read nothing on starting GH before the rest of your cycle. crank covered everything quit well from what I've read. Slin and T3 work best with GH but I'm staying away from slin. One other thing is most articles and post's I've read all say anything short of 6 month's of use seems to be pointless with GH.

[HungarianBeast]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

This has turned out to be one of the best anabolic threads I have read in a while! Thanks blink, crank, and everyone else.

[blink]

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Not me bro, thanks to everyone who responded!!! Lotta knowlegable bros/sisters here!!!

[BigSoda]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

[QUOTE=blink]Crank, thanks, bro.

Now let me change the subject slighrly. You mentioned running T3 in conjunction with a cycle including GH.

Another member posted that he was running such a cycle with T3. I challenged him on that, because T3 does NOT discriminate between different tissue types, and will chew up muscle like there ain't no tomorrow! In fact, it's more likely to burn muscle in leaner folks (10%-12%)! His response was that he's done it before, with good results.

So, naturally, I'm very interested in the theory behind running T3 with a cycle including GH. What dosage/frequency are we talking about here?

I'm glad that I waited for all of your input before beginning, thanks again!




LOL it was me ,na but when I have ran gh before without slin I never used t3,but when I did try slin I semed to add fat to quickly when bulking so like crank said at a low dose like 12.5 it helped me keep off alot of extra fat,I read a piece about it in building the perfect beast,Ill try and find it and post it. Also blink my dad tried frontloading gh for about 1-2 months at a way higher dose bfore adding aas and then lowered it down to 3iu ed from 12,he felt that it worked better then when he did gh a year or so later starting at the same time as his test and the rest of his aas,he is comming by my place shortly and Ill be glad to ask him the differences he felt on both times.

soda

[BigSoda]

Re: Frontloading with HGH (?)

blink in a paper I read also it was saying that one of the positive effects of t3 were

**increased sensitivity of reseptors for androgens,slin,gh.igf 1,pge 1,pgf 2,clen,eperdrine,creatine