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    History:

    Cycle 1
    Enth 500mg wk/ 1-12
    Winny 50mg ed/ 8-12

    Cycle 2
    Enth 700mg wk/ 1-12
    Eq 500mg wk/ 1-12
    Winny 50mg ed 8-12

    Cycle 3
    50mg dbol ed 1-4
    100 Tren ed 1-16
    100 Prop ed 1-16
    100mg winny ed 12-15 (Stopped because of shedding, no more winny for me)


    Now i want to setup another cutter cycle to go for about 12 weeks come March. This will give me a little over 5 months of recovery. (Cycle 3 ended Oct 04)

    What would you guys suggest. Was thinking of throwing in some T3 and Clen. One of my guys can get T3(20mcg)/T4(100mcg) tablets, never heard of them, maybe you can shed some light.

    Any help is of course always appreciated. Sides have been minimal with previos cycles.

    Stats

    6'2"
    245
    16% BF

    Goal = 240-250 @ 10-12%BF
    "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
    -Thomas ****erson (1743-1826)

  • #2
    Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

    Prop-125-150mgs ED-wks-13
    Tren-100mgs EOD-wks-13
    EQ-600mgs-wks-13
    Clen-80-140mcgs ED...Know your limit
    B12-100mcgs ED-wks-1-13

    Drink plenty of green tea to speed up metabolism. I like Clen over T3, I'm weird like that. I've done 140mcgs ED for 20 days on and 14 days off. I will tell you that while you're on clen and tren, good luck with the sleep. Might want to get some melatonin.

    And make sure you take your r-ala, thistle, multi-v, pct, etc....

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    • #3
      Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

      Originally posted by rado
      Prop-125-150mgs ED-wks-13
      Tren-100mgs EOD-wks-13
      EQ-600mgs-wks-13
      Clen-80-140mcgs ED...Know your limit
      B12-100mcgs ED-wks-1-13

      Drink plenty of green tea to speed up metabolism. I like Clen over T3, I'm weird like that. I've done 140mcgs ED for 20 days on and 14 days off. I will tell you that while you're on clen and tren, good luck with the sleep. Might want to get some melatonin.

      And make sure you take your r-ala, thistle, multi-v, pct, etc....

      I do B12 ed @ 1000mcg now .. I love the stuff. I feel great :-)

      Your cycle suggestion is about what i was thinking.

      Question: Do you really think the r-ala and thistle really help??

      I of course take my Multi-V and PCT (On clomid / Nolva / Trib now)
      "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
      -Thomas ****erson (1743-1826)

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      • #4
        Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

        Originally posted by WizeGi
        I do B12 ed @ 1000mcg now .. I love the stuff. I feel great :-)

        Your cycle suggestion is about what i was thinking.

        Question: Do you really think the r-ala and thistle really help??

        I of course take my Multi-V and PCT (On clomid / Nolva / Trib now)
        Yes it works; this is where I get my thistle from:
        http://dreampharm.com/Item/111.htm

        And r-ala does work wonders.
        and this is where I get my R-ala
        http://www.ralapure.com/?s=g&p=rala

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        • #5
          Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

          Originally posted by rado
          Yes it works; this is where I get my thistle from:
          http://dreampharm.com/Item/111.htm

          And r-ala does work wonders.
          and this is where I get my R-ala
          http://www.ralapure.com/?s=g&p=rala

          Thanks Rado ..

          I hope to be posting pics come MAY 05.
          "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
          -Thomas ****erson (1743-1826)

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          • #6
            Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

            Originally posted by WizeGi
            Thanks Rado ..

            I hope to be posting pics come MAY 05.
            Well get it done damn it


            Good luck bro and let me know if you need any more help/ideas. I'm sure others will have some insight on this thread here.

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            • #7
              Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

              Originally posted by rado
              Well get it done damn it


              Good luck bro and let me know if you need any more help/ideas. I'm sure others will have some insight on this thread here.

              I am getting there. I started @ 330 #'s approx 3 years ago. I am now 245 @ 16% , just really need to concentrate on the mid section and the cardio. I have started to blast abs and things are getting better. I am very pleased with my last cycle's results. I can now see veins throughout my arms and shoulders, legs as well. Just need all the BS in the middle to tighten up and drop those extra pounds.

              Old Stats:
              6'2"
              330
              44 waist
              50 chest (bad way)
              @ least 30% bf

              New stats
              6'2"
              245
              36-38" wasit (dam quads can barley get into a 38)
              48" chest (in a good way)

              So i am thinkin this next one may allow me to show some shots on FG.

              Woohoo

              I can't wait..
              "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
              -Thomas ****erson (1743-1826)

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              • #8
                Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

                IMO, wait on the cutter. You can get your BF down with diet and cardio alone. Others may disagree, but, I think that cutters are for folks who are competing, and need to get to whatever single-digit BF% that they need to, while preserving hard-earned muscle. Be patient! Lose naturally, save your $$$ for a good bulker and you'll be much happier in the end, bro!

                Rado gave a good example of a cutter, however, if your diet/cardio isn't seriously dialed in, you'll be wasting time and money, and will end up frustrated in the end.

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                • #9
                  Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

                  Originally posted by blink
                  IMO, wait on the cutter. You can get your BF down with diet and cardio alone. Others may disagree, but, I think that cutters are for folks who are competing, and need to get to whatever single-digit BF% that they need to, while preserving hard-earned muscle. Be patient! Lose naturally, save your $$$ for a good bulker and you'll be much happier in the end, bro!

                  Rado gave a good example of a cutter, however, if your diet/cardio isn't seriously dialed in, you'll be wasting time and money, and will end up frustrated in the end.

                  O i agree with you, i am planning to keep the diet on point and hit the cardio over the next 5 months before the cutter. I like my size now, really don't want to get any bigger, just more defined and solid.

                  I want to see what i look like when i am cut and all this BS is gone, then i will decide if i need to get bigger ..

                  Diet has been on point now for a while, just need to buckle down the cardio. If i haven't made any progress in the next 5 months naturally, i will hold off on the cycle. Not interested in throwing money away

                  PS
                  Is that you in your avatar, what are your stats???
                  "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
                  -Thomas ****erson (1743-1826)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

                    I agree with Blink, didn't notice the bf. I'd go for at least 45minutes of cardio ed 5-6 day a wk and watch the sat fats, and carbs. You sould be there in no time if you have 5 months to work with.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

                      Originally posted by WizeGi
                      I do B12 ed @ 1000mcg now .. I love the stuff. I feel great :-)

                      Your cycle suggestion is about what i was thinking.

                      Question: Do you really think the r-ala and thistle really help??

                      I of course take my Multi-V and PCT (On clomid / Nolva / Trib now)
                      Not to get off subject of the thread, but does B-12 really make you feel that great? My uncle whose health isn't tops takes B-12 and he tells me the same thing. His words exactly that it makes him feel great. I thought it just helped with appetite.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

                        Originally posted by horsepwr
                        Not to get off subject of the thread, but does B-12 really make you feel that great? My uncle whose health isn't tops takes B-12 and he tells me the same thing. His words exactly that it makes him feel great. I thought it just helped with appetite.

                        Well B12 helps regulate appetite, mood, temperature and energy.

                        The biggest thing i am trying to figure out is how to deal with my increased appetite, ever since i started taking it, i am almost always hungry
                        "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
                        -Thomas ****erson (1743-1826)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Next Cycle Suggestion

                          That's all I've ever heard is that it increases appetite. I haven't looked into it really though. But if it does all that it sounds worth having.
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