new here and cycle suggestions

[cbrod213]

Hey everyone. I've watched around the boards for a while now and i just wanted to get involved. I'm 5'9" 235lbs and 26 years old. I have no clue as to body fat, but i have a few pounds to lose and i hate cardio. I have about 4 or 5 cycles under my belt and i'l looking to make this one the best.
I plan to stay on for 6 months or so and really see where i end up. In my arsenal is cyp,enan, homebrew fina, russian dbol, deca, and masteron. I also have all the nessiccary ancilliaries.
Anyway i started on sept.15. And I'm up about 14lbs.
EOD shots of enan/fina at 175mg/125mg. I also started at a low dose of 20mgs of dbol for about 3 weeks. And T3,
Everything is going great, I was just looking for some suggestions from my new brothers on how to incorporate these other compounds which i've read so much about, but have never used.

Any Suggestions would be much appreciated.

[rado]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

Welcome to FG !

1st of all I think what you should of done for this cycle here is a lean/cutter cycle; like tren/prop/eq with your t3, seems like you may have some BF% on you. I assume that your other previous cycles were mostly bulkers.

I would drop the d-bol or up it a bit to maybe 35mgs ED for 10wks or so, you can get some constant gains and have a better chance of keeping them. Do you have Nolva/HCG/Clomid on hand? If not, get some.

I would of done this with what you have;

Tren-100mgs EOD for 13wks
enanthate-625mgs-13wks at 2 shots a week, no need for eod, long esthers.
d-bol(if you insist on it)-35mgs ed for 13wks.
clen(I like better over T3)-100-140mcgs ed 3wks on 2wks off
hcg-500ius e4d-from start to finish
nolva(in case of gyno)-40mgs from start to finish.

You CAN run the tren and d-bol for those long period of times, just take a good multi-V, R-ala, B12-B6 and some Thistle. If you can, get some blood work done half way through, this way you will know if you need to adjust.

This is what I would do since I like constant lean quality mass and able to retain most of it.

Good luck with it and I'm sure some of the other members/staff will give you some solid advice

[cbrod213]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

Thanks for the advice, but what i was kind of looking for was how i could incorporate all of these compounds in relatively low doses over a longer period of time.

My original plan was:
500mgs enan or cyp wks. 1-26
100mgs fina eod wks. 1-maybe 10
20mgs dbol ed wks 1-3
300mgs deca wks. 10-20 (never used)
100mgs masteron eod wks 18-28 (never used)

I do have clomid, nolv, arimidex, hcg.
I do take a multivitamin, 3000mgs vit C, 6 glucerell R, B6, and tylers liver.

Hopefully this gives everyone a better idea of what i was thinking and looking.
I'm only about 6 weeks in so theres plenty of time to change and adjust.

Thanks again.

[rado]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

Thanks for the advice, but what i was kind of looking for was how i could incorporate all of these compounds in relatively low doses over a longer period of time.

My original plan was:
500mgs enan or cyp wks. 1-26
100mgs fina eod wks. 1-maybe 10
20mgs dbol ed wks 1-3
300mgs deca wks. 10-20 (never used)
100mgs masteron eod wks 18-28 (never used)

I do have clomid, nolv, arimidex, hcg.
I do take a multivitamin, 3000mgs vit C, 6 glucerell R, B6, and tylers liver.

Hopefully this gives everyone a better idea of what i was thinking and looking.
I'm only about 6 weeks in so theres plenty of time to change and adjust.

Thanks again.

Well I will tell you that Deca and tren is like water and oil; don't do them together.

keep enanthate the way it is-why so long in weeks though?

fina is fine at eod and for 10wks or longer would be also good.

d-bol(if you insist)up it to 35mgs ed for wks-1-8. I would leave it out though, you already have tren affecting your liver.

Deca-OUT

masteron-I would wait for another cycle.

you do have the proper PCT stuff in hand which is good.

if I missed something, sorry but almost out of time here, I'm at work and almost leaving for the day so I'm kind of doing this quickly.

Let me know if you need more help bro.

[cbrod213]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

Well i guess i'll just run test and tren for a while. But i did bump up my fina a little. My left nipple now hurts a bit so i guess i just back the dosage back down. I've never had this problem before, Should up the B6, or maybe add in the dostinex that i just got? I know its not from the test cuz i'm running arimidex so it has to be from the fina. Any suggestions? Thanx.

[rado]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

is your tren acetate or enanthate?

[edvedr]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

rado i curious as why you say d-bol for that long. i would NEVER go over 4 weeks and i thought everyone thought the same way when it comes to orals. especially dbol or drol. yes you can help your liver with thistle or ala, but that only helps, not get rid of the problem. no to mention what it does to your hdl's. after 4 weeks on dbol my hdl's were below a 10, now thats a scary #. if i had continued 4 more weeks at that level and adding more dbol i could have done some serious damage.

[pigmeat]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

I will go 6 weeks on a 17aa.....no longer!

Some people can run them for a looong time, with no increased liver values.....others can get jaundice after 2 weeks. Thats why blood work is important

[cbrod213]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

Its acetate. Maybe if i drop the dose a bit and switch to everyday sticks to help stablize my blood levels it would help. And should i bump up the B6 or add dositnex?

[mick-G]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

I wouldn't even use the dbol with that cycle, who wants the extra bloat. The eod is good the way you are doing it. Your blood levels will be stable.

[cbrod213]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

yeah everything is out but the test and fina. I'm growing better on this than expected so i'll save everything else for later.

[edvedr]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

I will go 6 weeks on a 17aa.....no longer!

Some people can run them for a looong time, with no increased liver values.....others can get jaundice after 2 weeks. Thats why blood work is important

ok, and if someone wants to experiement on themselves then ok. but i still think recomending 13 weeks is crazy

[rado]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

ok, and if someone wants to experiement on themselves then ok. but i still think recomending 13 weeks is crazy

I've done 10wks at 35mgs ED and had no issues at all, along with tren. I get blood work done every 4 weeks when I'm on. I'm about to start soon

[rado]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

Thats fine for you bro.... But I think Eddie is right... You really shouldn't go recommending that someone stay on any 17AA for 13 weeks... I wouldn't feel right recommending over 6 weeks... I have run them longer but that doesn't mean I should recommend that, everyone is different.... I think sometimes we just get so used to our bodies and the way we do things for us, that we give advice based on that, but really you need to stop and think, this is someone else not me! For all you know this fella could have a weak liver, go on D-bol for 13 weeks as per your recommendation and cause some serious damage.... Remember tho we may be willing to take risks and use ourselves as guinea pigs, we should not recommend that others do that.

Ok, I got the ass chewin.......


I can't believe I also said d-bol for 13 wks

after I look at the post, I'm like WTF

[pigmeat]

Re: new here and cycle suggestions

Bad Rado! :p